Digital BW, The Print

Tom, I've seen the same print printed on an 1160 and 1280 through the Cone
driver and I couldn't tell the difference.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "tomoc" <tomoc@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo and hex FS


> Does anyone use the Piezo driver and hex MIS inks?
>
> I've seen a few posts that indicate Piezo only uses 4 inks even on
> the hex printers?
>
> I'm trying to figure out if a 1280 (or 1270 with name change) will
> print any better than an 1160 with the piezo driver. I take it for
> granted that the 6 inks will give smoother tones and a little less
> sharpness with the epson driver vs. an 1160?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom O'Connell
>
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Tom,

The Hex Piezo Inks and the MIS FS inks only use 4 colors. Cyan/PhotoCyan are
the same as well as Magenta/PhotoMagenta are the same.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "tomoc" <tomoc@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:26 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo and hex FS


> Does anyone use the Piezo driver and hex MIS inks?
>
> I've seen a few posts that indicate Piezo only uses 4 inks even on
> the hex printers?
>
> I'm trying to figure out if a 1280 (or 1270 with name change) will
> print any better than an 1160 with the piezo driver. I take it for
> granted that the 6 inks will give smoother tones and a little less
> sharpness with the epson driver vs. an 1160?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom O'Connell
>
> TomOC@...
> www.thomasoconnell.com
>
>
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Basically, it sounds to me that there is no advantage what soever in 
converting the 1270 to BW...I guess there might be some reason to 
want to at least try piezo on a 1280 using "best" setting, but I 
think I've seen posts that there wasn't much difference in going to 
2880 dip.

Well... Back to the drawing board for me... I have 2 1160s and a 
1270...only a cis on one 1160 (using FSN). I think I'll put a cis on 
the other 1160 (for FS) and use the 1270 to for Lyson Small Gamut... 
Hmmmmm... I think that means I'll need a 1280 for color. 

Any better ideas for this set of printers?

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit" 
<michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> The Hex Piezo Inks and the MIS FS inks only use 4 colors. 
Cyan/PhotoCyan are
> the same as well as Magenta/PhotoMagenta are the same.
> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tomoc" <tomoc@y...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:26 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo and hex FS
> 
> 
> > Does anyone use the Piezo driver and hex MIS inks?
> >
> > I've seen a few posts that indicate Piezo only uses 4 inks even on
> > the hex printers?
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out if a 1280 (or 1270 with name change) will
> > print any better than an 1160 with the piezo driver. I take it for
> > granted that the 6 inks will give smoother tones and a little less
> > sharpness with the epson driver vs. an 1160?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom O'Connell
> >
> > TomOC@y...
> > www.thomasoconnell.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
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Mike, are the inksets you are using w/ the Imageprint Rip only 4 inks?
Seems like a waste.

Bill

on 4/2/02 7:58 PM, Michael Kravit wrote:

The Hex Piezo Inks and the MIS FS inks only use 4 colors. Cyan/PhotoCyan are
the same as well as Magenta/PhotoMagenta are the same.

Mike




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Bill,

Yes, all of the Cone and MIS FS ink sets are quadtone inksets. there 
is no reason to use 6 shades as smooth continuous tone prints can be 
made quite successfully with the 4 shades.

The original MIS quads use 6 tones for the 6 color printers. I 
believe some time back Paul went ahead and posted the reasoning for 
this. You might search the archive from early to mid last year.

I am not sure if the Lyson ink set is qud or hex, but I would assume 
that they are 4 tones.

Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Bill Morse <willym@b...> 
wrote:
> Mike, are the inksets you are using w/ the Imageprint Rip only 4 
inks?
> Seems like a waste.