Digital BW, The Print

I just called Inkjetmall to find out how much the 7000 driver would be as a 
stand alone (no cleaners, no inks) , and they told me it was unavailable that 
way. One had to buy the kit.
Having had  green problems and clogging problems with thier ink in my 1160, I 
felt that I didn't want to be forced into purchasing their ink for my 7000, 
as I know I am not going to take a chance with it again.
BTW,I now use the cone driver with the MIS FS in my 1160, and I have not had 
any problems. And I have saved a considerable amount of money to boot.
Has anyone been able to purchase just the RIP? Is this a new policy?
It's too bad, because his RIP  is great, but I am looking into Image Print 4, 
which sells for a lot less than Cone's kit. Image Print is working on an 
upgrade for the MIS VM Sepia inks to be included at no additional charge. 
And a friend of mine who deals with a company in CA. showed me a print of his 
done with another RIP which is soon TBA. It looked excellent, no dots, great 
tones! Only problem is it is being devised for MAC first! (problem for me, 
that is). And this one is suppose to be a lot less expensive than Cone's 
drivers. And can be used with a multitude of hex black inks.
So, has anyone seen any hextone prints made with an Epson 7000 using the 
Image Print 4 RIP?
Any comments welcome.
George J Kunze

George, can you tell us any more about this other rip?

Thanks

Bill Morse
PhotoProspect
Cambridge, MA 02139

on 4/1/02 7:22 PM, toomagenta@... wrote:

And a friend of mine who deals with a company in CA. showed me a print of
his 
done with another RIP which is soon TBA. It looked excellent, no dots, great
tones! Only problem is it is being devised for MAC first! (problem for me,
that is). And this one is suppose to be a lot less expensive than Cone's
drivers. And can be used with a multitude of hex black inks.
Any comments welcome.
George J Kunze



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In a message dated 4/1/2002 11:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
willym@... writes:


> George, can you tell us any more about this other rip?
> 

As soon as I find out more, I will post it.
George J Kunze


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George,

I am currently using the Colorbyte ImagePrint 4 RIP on my Epson 7000 
with the MIS FS Neutral Tone inks. Have you seen one of my prints? If 
not, I can tell you that the RIP produces lovely fully detailed 
continuous tone prints. Lovely shadow detail, midtones and 
highlights. The rIP is flexible, you can use Cone Inks, MIS Inks, 
Lyson inks and it also does color.

You can arrange multiple images on the same sheet of paper in 
differeing sizes. After printing, the spooler feature lets you repeat 
previous print jobs. You can adjust inks indiviually and do many 
other things.

Colorbyte is currently profiling the following papers with MIS FS 
inks for me. Once complete the profiles with be placed on their 
website for down loading.

H. Photo Rag 308
H. William Turner
Museo
Legion Photo Matte
Bright Cube Eclipse Satine
H. Torchon
Epson Textured Fine Art

IP4 is an open system, in that you can have ICC profiles made by 
anyone. The concept is to have an open system that allows the end 
user to utilize any ink set and any paper he/she desires.

They are also currently working with the MIS VM ink set as well. I 
would image it will be supported within a few months. This is a small 
company and they are developing a desktop version, and a Mac version 
as well. 

If you have additional question, please let me know.

Mike




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., toomagenta@a... wrote:
> I just called Inkjetmall to find out how much the 7000 driver would 
be as a 
> stand alone (no cleaners, no inks) , and they told me it was 
unavailable that 
> way. One had to buy the kit.
> Having had  green problems and clogging problems with thier ink in 
my 1160, I 
> felt that I didn't want to be forced into purchasing their ink for 
my 7000, 
> as I know I am not going to take a chance with it again.
> BTW,I now use the cone driver with the MIS FS in my 1160, and I 
have not had 
> any problems. And I have saved a considerable amount of money to 
boot.
> Has anyone been able to purchase just the RIP? Is this a new policy?
> It's too bad, because his RIP  is great, but I am looking into 
Image Print 4, 
> which sells for a lot less than Cone's kit. Image Print is working 
on an 
> upgrade for the MIS VM Sepia inks to be included at no additional 
charge. 
> And a friend of mine who deals with a company in CA. showed me a 
print of his 
> done with another RIP which is soon TBA. It looked excellent, no 
dots, great 
> tones! Only problem is it is being devised for MAC first! (problem 
for me, 
> that is). And this one is suppose to be a lot less expensive than 
Cone's 
> drivers. And can be used with a multitude of hex black inks.
> So, has anyone seen any hextone prints made with an Epson 7000 
using the 

> Image Print 4 RIP?
> Any comments welcome.
> George J Kunze

Does anyone have a website address for Colorbyte?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mkravit" 
<michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> George,
> 
> I am currently using the Colorbyte ImagePrint 4 RIP on my 
Epson 7000 
> with the MIS FS Neutral Tone inks. Have you seen one of my 
prints? If 
> not, I can tell you that the RIP produces lovely fully detailed 
> continuous tone prints. Lovely shadow detail, midtones and 
> highlights. The rIP is flexible, you can use Cone Inks, MIS Inks, 
> Lyson inks and it also does color.
> 
> You can arrange multiple images on the same sheet of paper 
in 
> differeing sizes. After printing, the spooler feature lets you 
repeat 
> previous print jobs. You can adjust inks indiviually and do 
many 
> other things.
> 
> Colorbyte is currently profiling the following papers with MIS FS 
> inks for me. Once complete the profiles with be placed on their 
> website for down loading.
> 
> H. Photo Rag 308
> H. William Turner
> Museo
> Legion Photo Matte
> Bright Cube Eclipse Satine
> H. Torchon
> Epson Textured Fine Art
> 
> IP4 is an open system, in that you can have ICC profiles made 
by 
> anyone. The concept is to have an open system that allows the 
end 
> user to utilize any ink set and any paper he/she desires.
> 
> They are also currently working with the MIS VM ink set as well. 
I 
> would image it will be supported within a few months. This is a 
small 
> company and they are developing a desktop version, and a 
Mac version 
> as well. 
> 
> If you have additional question, please let me know.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., toomagenta@a... 
wrote:
> > I just called Inkjetmall to find out how much the 7000 driver 
would 
> be as a 
> > stand alone (no cleaners, no inks) , and they told me it was 
> unavailable that 
> > way. One had to buy the kit.
> > Having had  green problems and clogging problems with 
thier ink in 
> my 1160, I 
> > felt that I didn't want to be forced into purchasing their ink for 
> my 7000, 
> > as I know I am not going to take a chance with it again.
> > BTW,I now use the cone driver with the MIS FS in my 1160, 
and I 
> have not had 
> > any problems. And I have saved a considerable amount of 
money to 
> boot.
> > Has anyone been able to purchase just the RIP? Is this a 
new policy?
> > It's too bad, because his RIP  is great, but I am looking into 
> Image Print 4, 
> > which sells for a lot less than Cone's kit. Image Print is 
working 
> on an 
> > upgrade for the MIS VM Sepia inks to be included at no 
additional 
> charge. 
> > And a friend of mine who deals with a company in CA. 
showed me a 
> print of his 
> > done with another RIP which is soon TBA. It looked excellent, 
no 
> dots, great 
> > tones! Only problem is it is being devised for MAC first! 
(problem 
> for me, 
> > that is). And this one is suppose to be a lot less expensive 
than 
> Cone's 
> > drivers. And can be used with a multitude of hex black inks.
> > So, has anyone seen any hextone prints made with an 
Epson 7000 

> using the 
> > Image Print 4 RIP?
> > Any comments welcome.
> > George J Kunze

George,

I am also using a 7000 with the IP4 RIP and MIS-FS inks. Just 
finished framing and hanging a show of prints that I finished this 
past weekend. Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi 
on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt. Was 
very pleased with the outcome, especially considering how far I 
was pushing the info available. The show opens Friday and has 
already received considerable praise.

The Colorbyte people are a pleasure to work with. I started with 
the MAC version of the software but ran into problems, probably 
because I am using an upgraded MAC system. Now I am 
transferring to a Dell Laptop and printing from there. No major 
problems. I will continue working with the Colorbyte folks to 
make the MAC version be all it can be on my system.

Must also say, Mike Kravit is both a gentleman and a fine source 
of information for any traveling down this particular road.

Butch Hulett

Butch,

Thanks for the compliment. 

I spoke with the Colorbyte folks yesterday. They say that the 
profiles I requested are just about done. They should be able to post 
them this week.


Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "butchhul" <butchhul@a...> 
wrote:

> George,
> 
> I am also using a 7000 with the IP4 RIP and MIS-FS inks. Just 
> finished framing and hanging a show of prints that I finished this 
> past weekend. Images from 35mm Tri-X, scanned at 2800 dpi 
> on Minolta Multi, printed 18x27 on 24x36 Legion Photo Matt. Was 
> very pleased with the outcome, especially considering how far I 
> was pushing the info available. The show opens Friday and has 
> already received considerable praise.
> 
> The Colorbyte people are a pleasure to work with. I started with 
> the MAC version of the software but ran into problems, probably 
> because I am using an upgraded MAC system. Now I am 
> transferring to a Dell Laptop and printing from there. No major 
> problems. I will continue working with the Colorbyte folks to 
> make the MAC version be all it can be on my system.
> 
> Must also say, Mike Kravit is both a gentleman and a fine source 
> of information for any traveling down this particular road.
> 
> Butch Hulett