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Epson 870: can it print neutral BW?

Epson 870: can it print neutral BW?

2002-04-13 by Rick Schiller

I"m new to the group so excuse me if this has been covered.  I have an 870
and as everyone is aware, Black & White images have color shifts, usually to
green when printed.   My normal workflow from Photoshop is to scan in BW
negs as BW on a Canon 2720, work them in PS leaving them as grayscale, and
printing them out on Epson Premium Glossy paper for clients using color
settings on the Epson, color space: graysclae.   (Black only is much too
coarse).  These are headshot images intended for duplication, so the color
shift really isn't a factor except that some clients comment on it.   And
I'd like to just be able to give them neutral gray BWs.  (sure is easier
then darkroom work).

Is there an inkset I can use already loaded into carts, perhaps the MIS
vm-neutral, that will let me print better B&Ws and still retain color
capability?

Should I buy another printer dedicated to Black & White, possibley a 4-color
job with a quadtone inkset?

or . . ?

Thanks to all

Rick Schiller
www.rickschiller.com

Re: Epson 870: can it print neutral BW?

2002-04-13 by gschern

Rick, 

The best solution will be dedicating a printer to b/w. There are 
several great b/w inksets in both dye and pigment forms, and 
available in carts or bulk. If you're printing on glossy surfaces you 
may want to consider a dye based ink like the Lyson Quad Black or 
Small Gamut inks. If printing on a glossy surface is not important, 
you may consider the MIS VM inkset.

Greg Schern
Inkjet Goodies
www.inkjetgoodies.com
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Rick Schiller" 
<rschiller@a...> wrote:
> I"m new to the group so excuse me if this has been covered.  I have 
an 870
> and as everyone is aware, Black & White images have color shifts, 
usually to
> green when printed.   My normal workflow from Photoshop is to scan 
in BW
> negs as BW on a Canon 2720, work them in PS leaving them as 
grayscale, and
> printing them out on Epson Premium Glossy paper for clients using 
color
> settings on the Epson, color space: graysclae.   (Black only is 
much too
> coarse).  These are headshot images intended for duplication, so 
the color
> shift really isn't a factor except that some clients comment on 
it.   And
> I'd like to just be able to give them neutral gray BWs.  (sure is 
easier
> then darkroom work).
> 
> Is there an inkset I can use already loaded into carts, perhaps the 
MIS
> vm-neutral, that will let me print better B&Ws and still retain 
color
> capability?
> 
> Should I buy another printer dedicated to Black & White, possibley 
a 4-color
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> job with a quadtone inkset?
> 
> or . . ?
> 
> Thanks to all
> 
> Rick Schiller
> www.rickschiller.com

Re: Epson 870: can it print neutral BW?

2002-04-13 by photo734

Rick, Inkjet B&W print will never look like traditional darkroom 
prints. Totally neutral B&W prints have been the Holy Grail for 
inkjet printers. Most B&W archival inks have a slightly warm cast.  
MIS-FS/neutral or MIS-VM inks will probably get you as close to 
neutral as you can get. That requires a dedicated B&W inkjet printer 
with one of those inksets.

Bruce McElhaney
McElhaney Portrait Studio
Livonia, MI 



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Rick Schiller" 
<rschiller@a...> wrote:
> I"m new to the group so excuse me if this has been covered.  I have 
an 870
> and as everyone is aware, Black & White images have color shifts, 
usually to
> green when printed.   My normal workflow from Photoshop is to scan 
in BW
> negs as BW on a Canon 2720, work them in PS leaving them as 
grayscale, and
> printing them out on Epson Premium Glossy paper for clients using 
color
> settings on the Epson, color space: graysclae.   (Black only is 
much too
> coarse).  These are headshot images intended for duplication, so 
the color
> shift really isn't a factor except that some clients comment on 
it.   And
> I'd like to just be able to give them neutral gray BWs.  (sure is 
easier
> then darkroom work).
> 
> Is there an inkset I can use already loaded into carts, perhaps the 
MIS
> vm-neutral, that will let me print better B&Ws and still retain 
color
> capability?
> 
> Should I buy another printer dedicated to Black & White, possibley 
a 4-color
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> job with a quadtone inkset?
> 
> or . . ?
> 
> Thanks to all
> 
> Rick Schiller
> www.rickschiller.com

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