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Beginner Question - Contact Sheet/Filing Software

Beginner Question - Contact Sheet/Filing Software

2002-04-15 by Kip Babington

Greetings from a relative newcomer to digital photography.  I'd be 
interested to know what you folks think is the most useful  software for 
someone to use who ONLY wants to use it to make contact sheets and archive 
images to Cd.  I don't need web page stuff, no mailing stuff, just contact 
sheet and file operations that are straightforward and (ideally) relatively 
subject to at least semi-automation.  (I couldn't find anything in the 
archives going back into last fall, using a variety of different searches.)

I have 40 years of photo experience using traditional B&W darkroom methods 
- negatives in chronological, numbered sleeves with corresponding numbers 
on contact sheets.  I don't need a lot of database power, but would want to 
print some lines on the top and bottom of a digital index sheet to write in 
date, subject, filing and other data.  I'd like to get at least 30 images 
on a sheet, plus information lines and room to punch holes at top (2 hole) 
or side (3 hole) for filing.

I've downloaded a half dozen different demos of image management software 
(ACDSee, CompuPic, Thumbs+, Cumulus, Image Express, and maybe some others,) 
but all of it seems more elaborate that I need, and not all packages seem 
to even allow the addition of multi-line headers and footers.  Now I freely 
admit that I'm a little short of patience when it comes to software - if I 
can't do what I want by looking at the screen and searching the help file I 
tend to just move on to another program.  So far, ACDSee and EZ Viewer seem 
to come close to what I'd like, but if some of you have other suggestions 
I'd appreciate hearing them.  If you think one of the packages I already 
have seen will really do what I want if I just work harder at it (and maybe 
buy the full manual - I balk at printing out 150 page pdf files, even if 
they're free) go ahead and say so.  But remember that binding room and 
lines for data are important.

Thanks for any help.  If this subject has already been covered on the list 
and you can direct me to the section of the archives where I can read it, 
I'd appreciate that too.

Cheers,
Kip Babington

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Beginner Question - Contact Sheet/Filing Software

2002-04-15 by Kip Babington

Thanks for the suggestion, Mark.  I realize that I forgot to mention that 
I'm on a PC (Windows ME,) not a MAC.

Cheers,
Kip

At 4/15/2002 01:30 AM +0000, you wrote:
>I would try out IView Media Pro.
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RE: [Digital BW] Beginner Question - Contact Sheet/Filing Software

2002-04-15 by David J. Bookbinder

The contact sheet builder in iMatch (www.photools.com) sounds like it will
do what you want. Download a 30-day, fully functional free trial to find out
if it does.

- David

The program itself has some idiosyncracies, particularly on Win9x systems,
but it keeps getting better and more stable, and the developer is open to
suggestions (if you make them persistently and often enough) for continuing
to improve the product.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kip Babington [mailto:cbabing3@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:30 PM
To: :
Subject: [Digital BW] Beginner Question - Contact Sheet/Filing Software


Greetings from a relative newcomer to digital photography.  I'd be
interested to know what you folks think is the most useful  software for
someone to use who ONLY wants to use it to make contact sheets and archive
images to Cd.  I don't need web page stuff, no mailing stuff, just contact
sheet and file operations that are straightforward and (ideally) relatively
subject to at least semi-automation.  (I couldn't find anything in the
archives going back into last fall, using a variety of different searches.)

I have 40 years of photo experience using traditional B&W darkroom methods
- negatives in chronological, numbered sleeves with corresponding numbers
on contact sheets.  I don't need a lot of database power, but would want to
print some lines on the top and bottom of a digital index sheet to write in
date, subject, filing and other data.  I'd like to get at least 30 images
on a sheet, plus information lines and room to punch holes at top (2 hole)
or side (3 hole) for filing.

I've downloaded a half dozen different demos of image management software
(ACDSee, CompuPic, Thumbs+, Cumulus, Image Express, and maybe some others,)
but all of it seems more elaborate that I need, and not all packages seem
to even allow the addition of multi-line headers and footers.  Now I freely
admit that I'm a little short of patience when it comes to software - if I
can't do what I want by looking at the screen and searching the help file I
tend to just move on to another program.  So far, ACDSee and EZ Viewer seem
to come close to what I'd like, but if some of you have other suggestions
I'd appreciate hearing them.  If you think one of the packages I already
have seen will really do what I want if I just work harder at it (and maybe
buy the full manual - I balk at printing out 150 page pdf files, even if
they're free) go ahead and say so.  But remember that binding room and
lines for data are important.

Thanks for any help.  If this subject has already been covered on the list
and you can direct me to the section of the archives where I can read it,
I'd appreciate that too.

Cheers,
Kip Babington



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What's the highest density range you've seen a B&W film have???

2002-04-16 by Austin Franklin

I have someone claiming they can develop TMAX in RS developer and get a
density range of 4....yes FOUR!  I am very skeptical.  The most I've gotten
from T-MAX, in TMAX developer (which yields higher density than RS
typically) is a bit less than 3, and my typical Tri-X is around 2...and
Plus-X a bit more than 2...but FOUR!  Needless to say, I'm skeptical.

What's the poop?  Is this guy pulling my leg, or is his claim possibly
legit?

Austin

Re: [Digital BW] What's the highest density range you've seen a B&W film have???

2002-04-17 by Todd Flashner

> I have someone claiming they can develop TMAX in RS developer and get a
> density range of 4....yes FOUR!  I am very skeptical.  The most I've gotten
> from T-MAX, in TMAX developer (which yields higher density than RS
> typically) is a bit less than 3, and my typical Tri-X is around 2...and
> Plus-X a bit more than 2...but FOUR!  Needless to say, I'm skeptical.
> 
> What's the poop?  Is this guy pulling my leg, or is his claim possibly
> legit?

Heck, take the little piece that sticks out of the 35mm canister, waive it
under a light for a few secs, then develop it in straight developer for
30mins. If that doesn't reach MORE than 4 he's nuts. ;-)

Todd

RE: [Digital BW] What's the highest density range you've seen aB&W film have???

2002-04-17 by Austin Franklin

> > I have someone claiming they can develop TMAX in RS developer and get a
> > density range of 4....yes FOUR!  I am very skeptical.  The most
> I've gotten
> > from T-MAX, in TMAX developer (which yields higher density than RS
> > typically) is a bit less than 3, and my typical Tri-X is around 2...and
> > Plus-X a bit more than 2...but FOUR!  Needless to say, I'm skeptical.
> >
> > What's the poop?  Is this guy pulling my leg, or is his claim possibly
> > legit?
>
> Heck, take the little piece that sticks out of the 35mm canister, waive it
> under a light for a few secs, then develop it in straight developer for
> 30mins. If that doesn't reach MORE than 4 he's nuts. ;-)

I've done that, and I get less than 3 at best....but I've not experimented
with 30 minutes of TMAX RS developer...on TMAX film...

I was wondering what other people have seen for highest density range of B&W
films?

Thanks,

Austin

Re: [Digital BW] What's the highest density range you've seen aB&W film have???

2002-04-19 by John

You might give Tri-X 400 a try in d-76, be sure it's not the Tri-X 320. I
would experiment with over exposing one stop and under developing a little.
T-max is  too flat for me.

Regards,

John in Okc
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Panzer" <jimp@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] What's the highest density range you've seen aB&W
film have???


|     I have just started using T-Max RS a couple of weeks ago on the
| recommendation from a local camera shop.  I had been real disappointed
with
| my results using t-max films in d-76 and they suggested I try the RS, in
| fact they swore by it.  They said to mix the packet entirely with the
| content of the bottle, don't make replenisher!  Then use a 1:9 ratio at 75
| degrees for 9.5 minutes.  I don't have the instructions in front of me so
I
| cant give you the exact agitation methods, if anyone would like them just
| e-mail me.  Anyway, I got some of the most beautiful negatives I have ever
| gotten.  Now granted I am no professional but have been shooting for some
| time, and I noticed a big difference, nice dark blacks, very smooth skin
| tones.  I have no way of measuring the density though, I don't even know
how
| this is done, can you do it with a film scanner?  Whelp, I just thought
I'd
| through my 2 cents in, take care.
|
| Jim P
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Austin Franklin [mailto:darkroom@...]
| Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:48 PM
| To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: RE: [Digital BW] What's the highest density range you've seen
aB&W
| film have???
|
|
| > > I have someone claiming they can develop TMAX in RS developer and get
a
| > > density range of 4....yes FOUR!  I am very skeptical.  The most
| > I've gotten
| > > from T-MAX, in TMAX developer (which yields higher density than RS
| > > typically) is a bit less than 3, and my typical Tri-X is around
2...and
| > > Plus-X a bit more than 2...but FOUR!  Needless to say, I'm skeptical.
| > >
| > > What's the poop?  Is this guy pulling my leg, or is his claim possibly
| > > legit?
| >
| > Heck, take the little piece that sticks out of the 35mm canister, waive
it
| > under a light for a few secs, then develop it in straight developer for
| > 30mins. If that doesn't reach MORE than 4 he's nuts. ;-)
|
| I've done that, and I get less than 3 at best....but I've not experimented
| with 30 minutes of TMAX RS developer...on TMAX film...
|
| I was wondering what other people have seen for highest density range of
B&W
| films?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Austin
|
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