Digital BW, The Print

You can't use third party plugins with photoshop 7. Says so in the manual. You have to get updated drivers for all of them, which in my case
is about 300 plugins from a couple dozen manufacturers, some of which are long gone. This is a REAL problem, as I use some of them daily. So
I have to use system 9.2 if I want to use my plug ins. :(.

Have you noticed also that photoshop 7 running in system 9 is slower than molasses?   Like 5 or 10 times slower when saving or using some of
the filters?

Jerry




Robert Morrison wrote:

> Installed PS7 yesterday on my OSX.13 machine.  I installed it both in OSX
> and in the classic environment.  I've been unable to get the program to open
> in classic, however, unless I boot from OS9.2.2.  Thus, I can't use any of
> the plugins.  It seems from the Photoshop help files that it should be
> possible to open photoshop within classic...but perhaps they mean while
> booted from classic.  Anybody have an idea?  Otherwise it looks like
> everything but actions and curves will be dead for a while...unless you
> reboot the machine.
>
> Robert
>
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In a message dated 4/22/02 12:01:08 PM, rmorrison@... writes:

>Installed PS7 yesterday on my OSX.13 machine.  I installed it both in OSX
>and in the classic environment.  I've been unable to get the program to
>open
>in classic, however, unless I boot from OS9.2.2.  Thus, I can't use any
>of
>the plugins.  It seems from the Photoshop help files that it should be
>possible to open photoshop within classic...but perhaps they mean while
>booted from classic.  Anybody have an idea?  Otherwise it looks like
>everything but actions and curves will be dead for a while...unless you
>reboot the machine.

I have no difficulty going to Get Info, and checking the "boot as classic 
application" checkbox, and launching as a classic app within OS X... so its 
not universal, but specific to some issue with your system. I also have no 
problem running (at least some) non-carbonized plugins once I have launched 
PS& in this manner.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
CDTobie@...

> You can't use third party plugins with photoshop 7. Says so in the manual. You
> have to get updated drivers for all of them, which in my case
> is about 300 plugins from a couple dozen manufacturers, some of which are long
> gone. This is a REAL problem, as I use some of them daily. So
> I have to use system 9.2 if I want to use my plug ins. :(.

No problem using old plugins with PS7...but must operate under classic...see
my previous post.  Too bad they don't tell you how in the online help....

> Have you noticed also that photoshop 7 running in system 9 is slower than
> molasses?   Like 5 or 10 times slower when saving or using some of
> the filters?

Running under OSX, using PS7 running in classic...my performance is really
good...seems faster than PS6 running under the same conditions.  This
includes Genuine Fractals and Nik Sharpener Pro which are both very
processor intensive.  I'm running a dual G4 450 with 1.5 gB of RAM.

Robert

On 4/22/02 11:44 AM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:

> 
> Have you noticed also that photoshop 7 running in system 9 is slower than
> molasses?   Like 5 or 10 times slower when saving or using some of
> the filters?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Robert Morrison wrote:
> 
>> Installed PS7 yesterday on my OSX.13 machine.  I installed it both in OSX
>> and in the classic environment.  I've been unable to get the program to open
>> in classic, however, unless I boot from OS9.2.2.  Thus, I can't use any of
>> the plugins.  It seems from the Photoshop help files that it should be
>> possible to open photoshop within classic...but perhaps they mean while
>> booted from classic.  Anybody have an idea?  Otherwise it looks like
>> everything but actions and curves will be dead for a while...unless you
>> reboot the machine.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
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Robert Morrison
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4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

Yep...just took me a while to find the "boot as classic application"
box...this is the key.  It would have been nice if Adobe put this in their
help section.

Robert

On 4/22/02 12:27 PM, "CDTobie@..." <CDTobie@...> wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 4/22/02 12:01:08 PM, rmorrison@... writes:
> 
>> Installed PS7 yesterday on my OSX.13 machine.  I installed it both in OSX
>> and in the classic environment.  I've been unable to get the program to
>> open
>> in classic, however, unless I boot from OS9.2.2.  Thus, I can't use any
>> of
>> the plugins.  It seems from the Photoshop help files that it should be
>> possible to open photoshop within classic...but perhaps they mean while
>> booted from classic.  Anybody have an idea?  Otherwise it looks like
>> everything but actions and curves will be dead for a while...unless you
>> reboot the machine.
> 
> I have no difficulty going to Get Info, and checking the "boot as classic
> application" checkbox, and launching as a classic app within OS X... so its
> not universal, but specific to some issue with your system. I also have no
> problem running (at least some) non-carbonized plugins once I have launched
> PS& in this manner.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Design Cooperative
> CDTobie@...
> 
> 
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Los Angeles, CA 90066