Digital BW, The Print

I'm trying to think of ways to output a series of montages which contain
both colour and BW images. is there an inkjet solution??

Julian
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On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 02:43 , Julian Thomas wrote:

> I'm trying to think of ways to output a series of montages which contain
> both colour and BW images. is there an inkjet solution??
>
> Julian
>

In the old days, about 3-4 years ago, People reported success with 
double printing in creating paper negatives for contact printing. Two 
negatives of the same image was made in PS,  one for high lights, one 
for shadow or to control density in part of the print to suit the 
contact printing process being used; and each negative was printed on 
the same sheet of paper, passing the same sheet through the printer 
twice. Success will depend on how good the paper feed/registration is on 
the printer you are using. Probably worth a try.
If the final print is  slightly out of registration then maybe altering 
the montage will hide or maybe even add to it .

Jerry.

Thanks Jerry, I'll run some tests.

Julian
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>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 02:43 , Julian Thomas wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to think of ways to output a series of montages which contain
> > both colour and BW images. is there an inkjet solution??
> >
> > Julian
> >
>
> In the old days, about 3-4 years ago, People reported success with
> double printing in creating paper negatives for contact printing. Two
> negatives of the same image was made in PS,  one for high lights, one
> for shadow or to control density in part of the print to suit the
> contact printing process being used; and each negative was printed on
> the same sheet of paper, passing the same sheet through the printer
> twice. Success will depend on how good the paper feed/registration is on
> the printer you are using. Probably worth a try.
> If the final print is  slightly out of registration then maybe altering
> the montage will hide or maybe even add to it .
>
> Jerry.
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: <meander@...>
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:13 PM
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>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 02:43 , Julian Thomas wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to think of ways to output a series of montages which contain
> > both colour and BW images. is there an inkjet solution??

No, but there is a photoshop one.

I'm doing it in PS! But I need an output solution. And it needs to be
archival otherwise the new epson 7ink printer might do...

Julian
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> > On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 02:43 , Julian Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > I'm trying to think of ways to output a series of montages which
contain
> > > both colour and BW images. is there an inkjet solution??
>
> No, but there is a photoshop one.
>
>
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Hi Julian,

Didn't John Brownlow (or someone) do some test with repeated running through
a printer and find that alignment was excellent (on the second print) as
long as you marked your paper's edge on the printer? If that's the case...
it ought to be possible to do similar with two printers... but it would take
a bit more effort I'm sure.

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
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> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] only half OT
>
>
> I'm doing it in PS! But I need an output solution. And it needs to be
> archival otherwise the new epson 7ink printer might do...
>
> Julian

Are you claiming it is possible to inch the paper in the feeder?

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From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] only half OT


> Hi Julian,
>
> Didn't John Brownlow (or someone) do some test with repeated running
through
> a printer and find that alignment was excellent (on the second print) as
> long as you marked your paper's edge on the printer? If that's the case...
> it ought to be possible to do similar with two printers... but it would
take
> a bit more effort I'm sure.
>
> Nij
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > Sent: 25 April 2002 16:22
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] only half OT
> >
> >
> > I'm doing it in PS! But I need an output solution. And it needs to be
> > archival otherwise the new epson 7ink printer might do...
> >
> > Julian
>
>
>
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In roll feed mode it is to some extent... but my recollection is that tests
by <someone> showed you could refeed sheets with remarkable 'vertical'
accuracy... and if you marked the exact edge you used with some tape or
whatever... then you should get some form of alignment.

Sorry, just regurgitating info second-hand.

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dickbo [mailto:Dickbo@...]
> Sent: 25 April 2002 23:22
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] only half OT
>
>
> Are you claiming it is possible to inch the paper in the feeder?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] only half OT
>
>
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > Didn't John Brownlow (or someone) do some test with repeated running
> through
> > a printer and find that alignment was excellent (on the second print) as
> > long as you marked your paper's edge on the printer? If that's
> the case...
> > it ought to be possible to do similar with two printers... but it would
> take
> > a bit more effort I'm sure.
> >
> > Nij
> >

Julian,

I'd think your problem might be choice of paper. What are you 
expecting to print on, even if you get decent alignment? Your layout 
could be loose enough to accept some slop in printer loading.

Tim

> I'm doing it in PS! But I need an output solution. And it needs to be
> archival otherwise the new epson 7ink printer might do...
> 
> Julian
> 


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