Digital BW, The Print

Patrick,

A while ago somebody posted a suggestion about using a couple of sheets 
of that printable refrigerator magnet stuff to make a negative holder. 
Cut two frames out of the magnet material and hinge them together 
w/tape, and sandwich the neg in the middle. The magnets hold the neg 
flat, so it doesn't sag, and the thickness of the magnet is enough to 
lift it off the glass so you don't get newton rings. I've never tried 
this myself, but it sounded like a good idea.

-Jason

pdonegan wrote:

> I recently saw some posts regarding AN glass and I am trying to find a
> supplier.  I have an ArtixScan 1100 from Microtek (Support from Hell?
> - No, just NO support.)  I sometimes scan up to 8x10 sized negatives
> and transparencies and would like to avoid newton rings.  I have tried
> using borders made from plexiglass or similar materials to raise the
> image off of the glass carrier, but have not had much success.  Any
> ideas would be very helpful!
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick Donegan, owner
> Digital Eyes Custom Photo & Digital Imaging
> Pleasant Hill, CA

I've bought AN glass from the following website. Very 
helpful with questions as well.

http://www.fpointinc.com/

Peter Lindman

> I recently saw some posts regarding AN glass and I am trying to find a
> supplier.  I have an ArtixScan 1100 from Microtek (Support from Hell?
> - No, just NO support.)  I sometimes scan up to 8x10 sized negatives
> and transparencies and would like to avoid newton rings.  I have tried
> using borders made from plexiglass or similar materials to raise the
> image off of the glass carrier, but have not had much success.  Any
> ideas would be very helpful!
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick Donegan, owner
> Digital Eyes Custom Photo & Digital Imaging
> Pleasant Hill, CA

I'm buying from here
http://www.fpointinc.com/cgi-local/web_store/web_store.cgi email them and
they recommend a 2mil sheet. I'm getting a 5x4 for about 38 usd. BTW great
service so far - emails returned, discussed and shipped within 2 hours!

Julian

----- Original Message -----
From: "pdonegan" <pdonegan@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:45 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Anti-Newton Glass


> I recently saw some posts regarding AN glass and I am trying to find a
> supplier.  I have an ArtixScan 1100 from Microtek (Support from Hell?
> - No, just NO support.)  I sometimes scan up to 8x10 sized negatives
> and transparencies and would like to avoid newton rings.  I have tried
> using borders made from plexiglass or similar materials to raise the
> image off of the glass carrier, but have not had much success.  Any
> ideas would be very helpful!
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick Donegan, owner
> Digital Eyes Custom Photo & Digital Imaging
> Pleasant Hill, CA
>
>
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Peter, BTW, in an earlier mail you said I should use the glass the right way
up... is it obvious which side to use??

Julian

Julian,
Not obvious, no, but maybe your eyes are better than 
mine. Once I figured it out I marked the right side 
with a piece of  tape.
Peter

> Peter, BTW, in an earlier mail you said I should use the glass the right way
> up... is it obvious which side to use??
> 
> Julian

--- 
What do you look for to see which is the right side to go on the neg. 
I need help with that.

Vinny





In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., plindman@a... wrote:
> Julian,
> Not obvious, no, but maybe your eyes are better than 
> mine. Once I figured it out I marked the right side 
> with a piece of  tape.
> Peter
> > Peter, BTW, in an earlier mail you said I should use the glass 
the right way

> > up... is it obvious which side to use??
> > 
> > Julian

so how do i tell?

julian
----- Original Message -----
From: <plindman@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Anti-Newton Glass


> Julian,
> Not obvious, no, but maybe your eyes are better than
> mine. Once I figured it out I marked the right side
> with a piece of  tape.
> Peter
> > Peter, BTW, in an earlier mail you said I should use the glass the right
way
> > up... is it obvious which side to use??
> >
> > Julian
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
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> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
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Julian,
Originally I didn't know that I couldn't use either side. 
I lucked out the first couple of times I used it and got 
good scans. Then, when I did get rings on a scan, I 
figured out  that only one side is coated (I _think_ it's 
a coating). I tried both sides and found the side that 
doesn't  create Newton rings and marked it. It was a 
trial and error process. 
Maybe the supplier  or someone else on the list 
could provide a better method.
Peter

> so how do i tell?
> 
> julian

Yes! But like you, I didn't notice at first which side was which. You can't
really tell by sight, but by touch. Rub a dry finger on each side, one side
is definitely rougher...

...and that is the side that needs to go on the film.

Another way I found is to have the lid (of the scanner) open with the lamp
on, place the AN glass on the Scanner glass - wrong way up - bucket loads of
shiny newton-rings cannily lit by the lamp. When it's right way up... no
bnasty rings to be seen.

Hope this is helpful,

nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plindman@... [mailto:plindman@...]
> Sent: 14 May 2002 21:27
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Anti-Newton Glass
>
>
> Julian,
> Originally I didn't know that I couldn't use either side.
> I lucked out the first couple of times I used it and got
> good scans. Then, when I did get rings on a scan, I
> figured out  that only one side is coated (I _think_ it's
> a coating). I tried both sides and found the side that
> doesn't  create Newton rings and marked it. It was a
> trial and error process.
> Maybe the supplier  or someone else on the list
> could provide a better method.
> Peter
> > so how do i tell?
> >
> > julian

In a message dated 5/14/02 1:05:44 PM, jason@... writes:

<< Patrick,

A while ago somebody posted a suggestion about using a couple of sheets 
of that printable refrigerator magnet stuff to make a negative holder. 
Cut two frames out of the magnet material and hinge them together 
w/tape, and sandwich the neg in the middle. The magnets hold the neg 
flat, so it doesn't sag, and the thickness of the magnet is enough to 
lift it off the glass so you don't get newton rings. I've never tried 
this myself, but it sounded like a good idea.

-Jason >>

Sounds just like the Imacon method, but much more affordable!

-Andrew Darlow

Photography, Digital Print Consulting and Custom Editions
Andrew Darlow Images International, NYC - www.andydarlow.com
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