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1160...clog or air bubble?

1160...clog or air bubble?

2002-05-30 by rich8155

Hello all, I just got my replacement 1160 from Epson after my first 
one just died upon start-up.  This time the Epson inks installed 
and "charged" properly.  I printed a letter-sized color print on 
Epson Heavyweight Matte, and then an A3+ color print out on EAM.  
Both looked very nice.  

However, I thought maybe I saw a flaw on one and as a precaustion 
decided to print a nozzle test page.  After doing so I saw that one 
of the black areas had a gap.  So I ran a head cleaning cycle and 
printed the nozzle check again---gap still there. One more cleaing 
cycle, print the nozzle check once more and now only the black 
nozzle patterns printed, no color nozzle patterns at all (!?), so I 
tried to print again a nozzle check pattern---this time a blank 
sheet of paper, nothing printed at all!  Try again, same---blank 
sheet!  Head cleaning cycle, try again, blank sheet!  Try to print a 
letter from MS Word, blank sheet.  Re-start printer, same thing.  Re-
start computer and printer-again same.  So, now I'm left with all 
blank sheets printing.  What the.....?!  

I searched the archives here and it seems I either have a clog (of 
ALL heads?) or air bubbles.  Is my assumption right?  Anyway, I went 
ahead and just dropped some Windex on the felt pads, pushed the 
heads back to their proepr place and am waiting overnight. Hopefully 
either the heads will unclog or the air bubbles will work themselves 
out.  Any other suggestions or ideas here?  Thanks (again).

Regards,

Richard

Re: 1160...clog or air bubble?

2002-05-30 by antonisphoto

Richard,

the carts may not have seated properly? Did you lift and reseat the carts 
(allowing a bubble)? Could the carts be old and dry - or their seal broken 
before you installed?..... Should you try a fresh set of carts?........


 Since you are doing this with Epson OEM inks and printing in color, you 
should probably direct your question to groups that deal with Epson issues 
and color printing. We mostly deal with CIS and bw here (a whole other can of 
worms!).


Antonis



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "rich8155" <richard@c...> wrote:
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> Hello all, I just got my replacement 1160 from Epson after my first 
> one just died upon start-up.  This time the Epson inks installed 
> and "charged" properly.  I printed a letter-sized color print on 
> Epson Heavyweight Matte, and then an A3+ color print out on EAM.  
> Both looked very nice.  
> 
> However, I thought maybe I saw a flaw on one and as a precaustion 
> decided to print a nozzle test page.  After doing so I saw that one 
> of the black areas had a gap.  So I ran a head cleaning cycle and 
> printed the nozzle check again---gap still there. One more cleaing 
> cycle, print the nozzle check once more and now only the black 
> nozzle patterns printed, no color nozzle patterns at all (!?), so I 
> tried to print again a nozzle check pattern---this time a blank 
> sheet of paper, nothing printed at all!  Try again, same---blank 
> sheet!  Head cleaning cycle, try again, blank sheet!  Try to print a 
> letter from MS Word, blank sheet.  Re-start printer, same thing.  Re-
> start computer and printer-again same.  So, now I'm left with all 
> blank sheets printing.  What the.....?!  
> 
> I searched the archives here and it seems I either have a clog (of 
> ALL heads?) or air bubbles.  Is my assumption right?  Anyway, I went 
> ahead and just dropped some Windex on the felt pads, pushed the 
> heads back to their proepr place and am waiting overnight. Hopefully 
> either the heads will unclog or the air bubbles will work themselves 
> out.  Any other suggestions or ideas here?  Thanks (again).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Richard

Re: 1160...clog or air bubble?

2002-05-30 by jimhayes361

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "rich8155" <richard@c...> 
wrote:
<snip>

> However, I thought maybe I saw a flaw on one and as a precaustion 
> decided to print a nozzle test page.  After doing so I saw that one 
> of the black areas had a gap.  So I ran a head cleaning cycle and 
> printed the nozzle check again---gap still there.

Okay, your first problem sounds like it was indeed a clog sice it was 
localised to one line/gap. It still could have been air, but that 
would be my guess-clog.


 One more cleaing 
> cycle,

so this would be your second cleaning cycle. I usually don't do more 
than two in a row myself....maaaybbbe 3 if I get daring.

 print the nozzle check once more and now only the black 
> nozzle patterns printed, no color nozzle patterns at all (!?), so I 
> tried to print again a nozzle check pattern

you did two nozzle checks without a cleaning in-between? Anyway, at 
this point I would have stopped everything and done one of two things: 
either put a solution of 40% ethanol to 60% distilled water on the 
pad, a few drops. I also would have inspected the pad to see if it 
wasn't torn, dried out, gummed up with ink, etc. Remember this is a 
refurb you just got. Or, I would have called Epson back up since I 
coudn't get it to print with Epson inks. If this is so and it doesn't 
clear, there's something wrong with printer, right? Be it the pad, 
someone else's pigment ink residue in the head, improper seating of 
the cart due to muck around the nipple, whatever- that refurb is 
definitely not handling even Epson ink. I don't like that. Epson 
should give you another if it doesn't work with their ink... Then 
again if it clears with the solution on the pad, well, all in good.


---this time a blank 
> sheet of paper, nothing printed at all!  Try again, same---blank 
> sheet!  Head cleaning cycle, try again, blank sheet!

Head cleanings can actually make more lines in a pattern disapear 
after about 2-3 cleanings. Give it a rest and try again overnight. Or 
call Epson. Excessive cleanings gets you in a viscious circle you see- 
you lose more and more lines.

Look inside the printer with a flashlight. What is overall condition 
of printer. Is it fairly clean, or dirty? Could give you an idea if 
it's had the heck run out of it or not.


  
> I searched the archives here and it seems I either have a clog (of 
> ALL heads?)

No you don't have that.

 or air bubbles.

That's a real possibility.

  Is my assumption right?

You can't prove anything after more than three cleanings. Resting with 
solution on the pad is the way to go-or call Epson.

  Anyway, I went 
> ahead and just dropped some Windex on the felt pads,

I've used this too with good sucess, some people don't like it. I 
prefer the 40% alcohol. Not that big a deal. 

 pushed the 
> heads back to their proepr place and am waiting overnight.

And gave the printer time to wake up when you plugged it back in 
before pushing the off button? This is important of course, because 
the pad must have time to seal against the head or the head will dry 
out fast. Plugging the printer in does this- you probably know this, 
I'm just being certain.

 Jim H

RE: [Digital BW] 1160...clog or air bubble?

2002-05-30 by Steven Chambers

Richard,

If subsequent cleaning cycles worsen the problem then you are sucking air.
Let it sit overnight and do not do more than two cleans per cycle. I found
with all cartridges that they should be stored upright for at least 24 hours
before inserting into the printer. This allows any air in the ink reservoir
to migrate to the top of the cartridge.

Steve Chambers
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: rich8155 [mailto:richard@...]
  Sent: 30 May 2002 07:27
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] 1160...clog or air bubble?


  Hello all, I just got my replacement 1160 from Epson after my first
  one just died upon start-up.  This time the Epson inks installed
  and "charged" properly.  I printed a letter-sized color print on
  Epson Heavyweight Matte, and then an A3+ color print out on EAM.
  Both looked very nice.

  However, I thought maybe I saw a flaw on one and as a precaustion
  decided to print a nozzle test page.  After doing so I saw that one
  of the black areas had a gap.  So I ran a head cleaning cycle and
  printed the nozzle check again---gap still there. One more cleaing
  cycle, print the nozzle check once more and now only the black
  nozzle patterns printed, no color nozzle patterns at all (!?), so I
  tried to print again a nozzle check pattern---this time a blank
  sheet of paper, nothing printed at all!  Try again, same---blank
  sheet!  Head cleaning cycle, try again, blank sheet!  Try to print a
  letter from MS Word, blank sheet.  Re-start printer, same thing.  Re-
  start computer and printer-again same.  So, now I'm left with all
  blank sheets printing.  What the.....?!

  I searched the archives here and it seems I either have a clog (of
  ALL heads?) or air bubbles.  Is my assumption right?  Anyway, I went
  ahead and just dropped some Windex on the felt pads, pushed the
  heads back to their proepr place and am waiting overnight. Hopefully
  either the heads will unclog or the air bubbles will work themselves
  out.  Any other suggestions or ideas here?  Thanks (again).

  Regards,

  Richard


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