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Re: Flatbed scanners

Re: Flatbed scanners

2002-07-09 by Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks for the compliment, Alan.

I can't tell you what silver prints look like from those negatives since 
I have not printed anything in a darkroom for about 10 years. Be that as 
it may, the 7x10 on 8.5x11" paper prints I made have a wonderful texture 
to them and image the grain pretty nicely.

All the SDII & 2450 scans in the test were scanned with VueScan  ... No 
sharpening or any other modifications at all were made to the images in 
the test sample, the full frame images were simply JPEG compressed a lot 
and the detail snippets were JPEG compressed as little as possible. Yes, 
a little unsharp mask with Photoshop snaps them up beautifully, as they 
do all negative scans. Gotta clean up that quantization error... :-)

Godfrey
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On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 09:00 PM, Alan Zinn wrote:

> Godfrey,
>
> I liked the Tessina pictures. How does the "grain" differ from silver
> prints? Do the scanned pictures have an all together different look to
> someone who is used to seeing real film grain in prints?
>
> I looked at the eight slide tests and think the Minolta does a better 
> job of
> accurately scanning dust :-) Seriously, the 2450 holds it's own - I
> sharpened a bit more one of the 2450's and got the bottle labels to 
> clean up
> some. What sharpness level on the 2450 were they scanned?
>
> AZ
>
> Maker of Lookaround panoramic camera.
> http://www.panoramacamera.us
>          or
> keyword.com lookaround
>
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Re: nice work Godfrey and [Digital BW] Flatbed scanners

2002-07-09 by Alan Zinn

At 07:51 AM 7/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I've been working with the Epson 2450 since last December. It has enough 
>resolution to do a good job with 35mm or even smaller work. A dedicated 
>film scanner is better, certainly, but I have printed even Minox format 
>work scanned with it at modest sizes with good results. This image, 
>scanned with the Epson, is made with a Tessina camera (negative size 
>14x21mm):
>
><http://www.bayarea.net/~ramarren/photostuff/tess0201/pages/Plumbing.htm>
>
>and prints to a very acceptable 7x10" image at 200dpi. Of course, medium 
>format makes a far superior print ... a 645 negative scanned at 2400 ppi 
>will give you a 13x19" print at 300dpi.
>
>A couple of resolution examples of the 2450 can be obtained at the 
>following two links.
>
>medium format, b&w and color neg:
><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SeePhoto/files/Godfrey/scaneg/epson2450resol
ution.
>htm>
>
>35mm transparency, minolta scan dual II and epson 2450:
><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SeePhoto/files/Godfrey/scaneg/reztest.htm>
>
>It's an excellent scanner for the money. I could not say how it compares 
>with the Canon in detail but I'm satisfied enough to have no real need 
>to find out for myself.
>
>Godfrey
>ramarren@...
>http://www.bayarea.net/~ramarren/photostuff/PAW2/
>
Godfrey,

I liked the Tessina pictures. How does the "grain" differ from silver
prints? Do the scanned pictures have an all together different look to
someone who is used to seeing real film grain in prints? 

I looked at the eight slide tests and think the Minolta does a better job of
accurately scanning dust :-) Seriously, the 2450 holds it's own - I
sharpened a bit more one of the 2450's and got the bottle labels to clean up
some. What sharpness level on the 2450 were they scanned?

AZ

Maker of Lookaround panoramic camera.
http://www.panoramacamera.us
         or
keyword.com lookaround

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