Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Thread

Re: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone

Re: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone

2002-08-11 by Martin Wesley

----- Original Message -----
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: "krippa1010" <krister.halvars@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone


> Hi.
>
> I have been printing digital color for some years no.
> Now its time to pick up the B&W again. BUT.....
> after reading some intresting things on the web I am still
>  a bit confused. It would be nice with some advise.
>
> I will use my old Epson 1200.
> Should I go for Full Spectrum Hextone or Variable Mix Quadtone.
>
Krister,

The 1200 is not the best printer for grayscale inks and some people, myself
included, have had problems with it. The Full Spectrum inks require the
Piezo driver and I cannot recommend that for the 1200. I would go with the
Variable Mix unless you can replace the 1200 with a 1280 then either would
be quite fine.

Do you prefer a warm or a cool tone print? The standard FS is very warm and
the standard VM very cool to med warm. If you like warm tone prints you
might consider the Sepia-VM.

Martin Wesley

Re: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone

2002-08-11 by krippa1010

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "krippa1010" <krister.halvars@t...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone
> 
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have been printing digital color for some years no.
> > Now its time to pick up the B&W again. BUT.....
> > after reading some intresting things on the web I am still
> >  a bit confused. It would be nice with some advise.
> >
> > I will use my old Epson 1200.
> > Should I go for Full Spectrum Hextone or Variable Mix Quadtone.
> >
> Krister,
> 
> The 1200 is not the best printer for grayscale inks and some 
people, myself
> included, have had problems with it. The Full Spectrum inks require 
the
> Piezo driver and I cannot recommend that for the 1200. I would go 
with the
> Variable Mix unless you can replace the 1200 with a 1280 then 
either would
> be quite fine.
> 
> Do you prefer a warm or a cool tone print? The standard FS is very 
warm and
> the standard VM very cool to med warm. If you like warm tone prints 
you
> might consider the Sepia-VM.
> 
> Martin Wesley


Thanks Martin.

Still a bit of confusion. At the homepage of MIS Associates they 
claim that John Woolf  have got spectacular results with his curves 
and procedures.(Hextone)  ?????

/k

/k

Re: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone

2002-08-11 by Martin Wesley

----- Original Message -----
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: "krippa1010" <krister.halvars@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone


> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "krippa1010" <krister.halvars@t...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:42 AM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Variable Mix Quadtone or Full Spectrum Hextone
> >
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I have been printing digital color for some years no.
> > > Now its time to pick up the B&W again. BUT.....
> > > after reading some intresting things on the web I am still
> > >  a bit confused. It would be nice with some advise.
> > >
> > > I will use my old Epson 1200.
> > > Should I go for Full Spectrum Hextone or Variable Mix Quadtone.
> > >
> > Krister,
> >
> > The 1200 is not the best printer for grayscale inks and some
> people, myself
> > included, have had problems with it. The Full Spectrum inks require
> the
> > Piezo driver and I cannot recommend that for the 1200. I would go
> with the
> > Variable Mix unless you can replace the 1200 with a 1280 then
> either would
> > be quite fine.
> >
> > Do you prefer a warm or a cool tone print? The standard FS is very
> warm and
> > the standard VM very cool to med warm. If you like warm tone prints
> you
> > might consider the Sepia-VM.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
>
>
> Thanks Martin.
>
> Still a bit of confusion. At the homepage of MIS Associates they
> claim that John Woolf  have got spectacular results with his curves
> and procedures.(Hextone)  ?????
>
> /k


/k,

I have not see any prints from or posts about this workflow but perhaps
someone else has some experience that they can share. Keep in mind that the
Woolf hex workflow for the FS inks requires different dilutions of the c and
m ink positions than the standard set so you would need to order
FS-Hex-Set-E which would not work with the Piezo driver if you should decide
to go that route.

My impression from this list is that the Woolf workflows are not used much
compared to the Piezo or the VM with Paul Roark's curves. So getting help
with problems with the Woolf might be more difficult. For someone starting
out I would stick with Piezo or VM where you would have lots of company.

I really have to say again that the 1200 does a poor job with the gray scale
inks and has more problems with banding than other printers. I realize that
cost is probably an issue but going with the 1200 as a dedicated B&W printer
may be setting yourself up for a bad experience and be a false saving.

Martin

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.