Digital BW, The Print

For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial 
Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check out 
www.bwguys.com.

Richard

Sunday, August 18, 2002, 5:04:28 PM, eastcoastprolab wrote:

e> For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial 
e> Piezo BW inks


Is there anyone?  I've always heard the original inks have "greenies"
problems and often clog printers, especially 1160's.

Should I even consider trying the original inks?

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

> For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial
> Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check out
> www.bwguys.com.
>
> Richard

Whoa...wait a cotton picking minute here.  I thought Cone
formulated/developed the inks themselves...at least that was what I
believed.  When I read this, it doesn't lead me to that conclusion:

"The bwguys are happy to announce the continued availability of the
 "Classic" Sundance Neutral Warm inks, formerly distributed by Cone Editions
Press, Ltd. under their brand names PiezographyT BW and PiezographyT BW
Pro..."

Anyone know more about this?

Regards,

Austin

Austin,

A semi-open secret apparently that has been know by a lot of people. My
understanding is that Sundance and R9 were marketing the ink and plugin thru
Digital Art Supplies before entering into an exclusive arrangement with
ConeTech a couple of years or more ago.

This got talked about little while back when DAS started offering the ink
and plugin again.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Original Piezo BW Inks


>
> > For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial
> > Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check out
> > www.bwguys.com.
> >
> > Richard
>
> Whoa...wait a cotton picking minute here.  I thought Cone
> formulated/developed the inks themselves...at least that was what I
> believed.  When I read this, it doesn't lead me to that conclusion:
>
> "The bwguys are happy to announce the continued availability of the
>  "Classic" Sundance Neutral Warm inks, formerly distributed by Cone
Editions
> Press, Ltd. under their brand names PiezographyT BW and PiezographyT BW
> Pro..."
>
> Anyone know more about this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 08:44:02PM -0400, Austin Franklin wrote:
> 
> > For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial
> > Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check out
> > www.bwguys.com.
> >
> > Richard
> 
> Whoa...wait a cotton picking minute here.  I thought Cone
> formulated/developed the inks themselves...at least that was what I
> believed.  When I read this, it doesn't lead me to that conclusion:
> 
> "The bwguys are happy to announce the continued availability of the
>  "Classic" Sundance Neutral Warm inks, formerly distributed by Cone Editions
> Press, Ltd. under their brand names PiezographyT BW and PiezographyT BW
> Pro..."
> 
> Anyone know more about this?
> 

I think Jon would would be best answering this.

I too assumed than Cone designed the original inks and software but after
other sites started selling the inks it became apparent that Cone simply had
exclusive rights to sell those inks for a limited period of time.

I think the new Piezotones are Cone's though and are not being sold through
some licensing arrangement.

Jon, I'd be interested in knowing about the PiezoBW software - do you hire
programmers to write this for you or, again, is this owned by someone else
with you simply licensing it out? Personally I'd like to see you with as
much control over the products you sell as possible.


-- 
Tony Terlecki
ajt@...

At 12:04 AM 8/19/2002 -0000, you wrote:
>For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial 
>Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check out 
>www.bwguys.com.
>
>Richard
>

I give up - where on that URL did you see these inks? 

AZ
Maker of Lookaround panoramic camera.
http://www.panoramacamera.us
         or
keyword.com lookaround

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Alan Zinn <AZinn@n...> 
wrote:
> At 12:04 AM 8/19/2002 -0000, you wrote:
> >For those of us still happily making great prints with the origial 
> >Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check 
out 
> >www.bwguys.com.
> >
> >Richard
> >
> 
> I give up - where on that URL did you see these inks? 
> 
> AZ
> Maker of Lookaround panoramic camera.
> http://www.panoramacamera.us
>          or
> keyword.com lookaround

Go to the bottom of the main page and select the link to their ebay 
store.

Richard

I just noticed that Digital Art Supplies has the R9 piezo plug in 
upgrade for OS10

and also it looks like the BW Pro RIP is available for desktop 
printers.. anyone else see anything about this ??

it's on their site.

Larry




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "eastcoastprolab" 
<chesterfield431@a...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Alan Zinn <AZinn@n...> 
> wrote:
> > At 12:04 AM 8/19/2002 -0000, you wrote:
> > >For those of us still happily making great prints with the 
origial 

> > >Piezo BW inks there is now a new source with great prices. Check 
> out 
> > >www.bwguys.com.
> > >
> > >Richard
> > >
> > 
> > I give up - where on that URL did you see these inks? 
> > 
> > AZ
> > Maker of Lookaround panoramic camera.
> > http://www.panoramacamera.us
> >          or
> > keyword.com lookaround
> 
> Go to the bottom of the main page and select the link to their ebay 
> store.
> 
> Richard