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Re: [Digital BW] Can ink dry out in tubes?

Re: [Digital BW] Can ink dry out in tubes?

2002-08-19 by Martin Wesley

Bjorn,

A 14-month old CIS I had not used for about six months had some dried ink in
the lines when I disassembled it so it is possible.

Make sure the ink level in the black ink bottle is good. CIS often seem to
have trouble if the ink level gets low. Best to keep them about 1/2 full if
you can. They will not use the last 1/4" to 3/8" of ink in the bottle.

If the black line is actually clogged first try raising the bottle of black
ink above the printer while trying to print a purge image.

If that fails then pinch of the vent line on the black ink bottle and
squeeze the bottle gently while printing a purge image.

Last take the CIS off the printer and flush the black line with warm water
and a syringe.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



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From: "bjornaagedk" <bs@...>
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:36 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Can ink dry out in tubes?


> I have an Epson 1160 with CFS system from MIS running FS-N inks, until
> now without any troubles. I only print a few prints a week at this
machine,
> but have always had a clean print without nozzles.
>
> Suddenly I got problems with the black cartridge, like it was running out
of
> ink ( not a single black dot came out!) Running several cleaning cycles
> helped nothing. When I took a closer look at the tube feeding the black
ink,
> it looked like the black ink has dried out just before entering the
cartridge...
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> I need an advice to get the ink flowing again... :)
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[Digital BW] Can ink dry out in tubes?

2002-08-19 by Paul Roark

>...
>it looked like the black ink has dried out just before
>entering the cartridge...


I don't know where the inks dried in my CIS systems, but twice I used
systems that had been sitting idle for a while, and they clogged my 1160 --
seriously.  The second one killed the head.  For me it was the color head.
(I paid $180 to have the head replaced.)

It may be that the CIS/CFS system is really only a good idea for those who
use the same inkset rather continuously.  Many heavy users have very good
luck with them.  My pattern of changing between inksets was a disaster with
the CIS, however.

So, I fill new carts now.  With the vacuum filling system, I usually get a
perfect nozzle check the first effort -- just like a factory-filled cart.
For infrequent printers or those who like to switch among inksets, I
recommend this.

The black ink would probably be the most sensitive to leaks (or just air
passing straight through the plastic tubing) due to its solvent base.  (The
solvent base and it's faster dying is important for both a deep black and
longevity.)  Since my small printer -- the 1160 -- is used for letters and
all general printing, the black ink always gets lots of use.  So I virtually
never have a clog with it or any color position with the carts.  If your
printer is a dedicated photo printer and you don't use it much, the black
would be the one to keep an eye on in terms of trouble.

If the ink solidified right by the connection to the cart, I'd be suspicious
of a bad fitting there.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Can ink dry out in tubes?

2002-08-19 by sm7bxd

Hallo,

Have a look here - Paul is right - the black tubing is permeable - 
and the black ink contains more solvents!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/145
07

Regards

Bo


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> >...
> >it looked like the black ink has dried out just before
> >entering the cartridge...
> 
> 
> I don't know where the inks dried in my CIS systems, but twice I 
used
> systems that had been sitting idle for a while, and they clogged my 
1160 --
> seriously.  The second one killed the head.  For me it was the 
color head.
> (I paid $180 to have the head replaced.)
> 
> It may be that the CIS/CFS system is really only a good idea for 
those who
> use the same inkset rather continuously.  Many heavy users have 
very good
> luck with them.  My pattern of changing between inksets was a 
disaster with
> the CIS, however.
> 
> So, I fill new carts now.  With the vacuum filling system, I 
usually get a
> perfect nozzle check the first effort -- just like a factory-filled 
cart.
> For infrequent printers or those who like to switch among inksets, I
> recommend this.
> 
> The black ink would probably be the most sensitive to leaks (or 
just air
> passing straight through the plastic tubing) due to its solvent 
base.  (The
> solvent base and it's faster dying is important for both a deep 
black and
> longevity.)  Since my small printer -- the 1160 -- is used for 
letters and
> all general printing, the black ink always gets lots of use.  So I 
virtually
> never have a clog with it or any color position with the carts.  If 
your
> printer is a dedicated photo printer and you don't use it much, the 
black
> would be the one to keep an eye on in terms of trouble.
> 
> If the ink solidified right by the connection to the cart, I'd be 
suspicious
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> of a bad fitting there.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

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