Digital BW, The Print

> Tim, Jerry,
>
> A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print well
> with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a very
> weak, veiled print.
>
> As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with caution.
>
> Martin
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> luxurious,
> > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > tyork@a... wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jerry,
> > >
> > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> that
> > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have been
> > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> (snip)
>
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> Jerry
>
> The inks you used were they the MIS color pigment inks? There are so
> many inks I have trouble keeping up with them.
>
> Tim
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > Martin, I just printed a Color print on a 11x17 sheet of Eclipse
> this morning. It is gorgeous. It is Brilliant! I used the MIS archival
> > pigment inks and Beta Black from Generations. It couldn't be
> nicer.  I won't be using it for Piezo inks, or with Epson inks.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > This paper will replace torchon as soon as I've used up my supply
> of torchon. The Torchon profile works perfectly on the Eclipse paper!
> > Today is a good day!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin Wesley wrote:
> >
> > > Tim, Jerry,
> > >
> > > A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print
> well
> > > with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a
> very
> > > weak, veiled print.
> > >
> > > As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> > > some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with
> caution.
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> > > torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> > > luxurious,
> > > > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> > > I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > tyork@a... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> > > that
> > > > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have
> been
> > > > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > (snip)
> > >
> > >
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> Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page
> is at:
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Jerry,
> I reread your post and realize you were using the color pigments.
> Which profile were you using with Torchon, was it the heavtweight
> matt profile found in the canned profiles on the 1280? Is that the
> same profile used with the Eclipse Satine you used to make your 11x17
> print? Thx.
>
> Tim
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > Martin, I just printed a Color print on a 11x17 sheet of Eclipse
> this morning. It is gorgeous. It is Brilliant! I used the MIS archival
> > pigment inks and Beta Black from Generations. It couldn't be
> nicer.  I won't be using it for Piezo inks, or with Epson inks.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > This paper will replace torchon as soon as I've used up my supply
> of torchon. The Torchon profile works perfectly on the Eclipse paper!
> > Today is a good day!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin Wesley wrote:
> >
> > > Tim, Jerry,
> > >
> > > A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print
> well
> > > with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a
> very
> > > weak, veiled print.
> > >
> > > As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> > > some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with
> caution.
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> > > torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> > > luxurious,
> > > > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> > > I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > tyork@a... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> > > that
> > > > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have
> been
> > > > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > (snip)
> > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
> Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page
> is at:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> 
> Martin, I just printed a Color print on a 11x17 sheet of Eclipse this morning. It is gorgeous. It is Brilliant! I used the MIS archival
> pigment inks and Beta Black from Generations. It couldn't be nicer.  I won't be using it for Piezo inks, or with Epson inks.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> This paper will replace torchon as soon as I've used up my supply of torchon. The Torchon profile works perfectly on the Eclipse paper!
> Today is a good day!
> 
> Martin Wesley wrote:
> 
> > Tim, Jerry,
> >
> > A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print well
> > with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a very
> > weak, veiled print.
> >
> > As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> > some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with caution.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> > torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> > luxurious,
> > > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> > I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > tyork@a... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Jerry,
> > > >
> > > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> > that
> > > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have been
> > > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > (snip)
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
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>
> Randy Laskody
>
> Jerry Olson wrote:
> >
> > Martin, I just printed a Color print on a 11x17 sheet of Eclipse this morning. It is gorgeous. It is Brilliant! I used the MIS archival
> > pigment inks and Beta Black from Generations. It couldn't be nicer.  I won't be using it for Piezo inks, or with Epson inks.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > This paper will replace torchon as soon as I've used up my supply of torchon. The Torchon profile works perfectly on the Eclipse paper!
> > Today is a good day!
> >
> > Martin Wesley wrote:
> >
> > > Tim, Jerry,
> > >
> > > A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print well
> > > with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a very
> > > weak, veiled print.
> > >
> > > As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> > > some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with caution.
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> > > torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> > > luxurious,
> > > > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> > > I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > tyork@a... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> > > that
> > > > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have been
> > > > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > (snip)
> > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> >
> >
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>
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> 
> Randy L wrote:
> 
> > Jerry, how do you think this paper will print with enhanced generations
> > and mis quads? And will the blacks match archival matte?
> 
> Are you speaking of enhanced Generations QUAD inksets? I didn't know they were out yet.
> 
> Eclipse  prints beautifully on  my 1280 printer with the MIS Hextones and VM black. I would think the quads would be as nice, with Paul's
> curves. Visually I think the blacks are nearly identical. Paul Roark says the Epson Archival has the blackest blacks of any paper's he's seen to
> date. Eclipse is a beautiful paper, you should at least try it.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> >
> > Randy Laskody
> >
> > Jerry Olson wrote:
> > >
> > > Martin, I just printed a Color print on a 11x17 sheet of Eclipse this morning. It is gorgeous. It is Brilliant! I used the MIS archival
> > > pigment inks and Beta Black from Generations. It couldn't be nicer.  I won't be using it for Piezo inks, or with Epson inks.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > This paper will replace torchon as soon as I've used up my supply of torchon. The Torchon profile works perfectly on the Eclipse paper!
> > > Today is a good day!
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tim, Jerry,
> > > >
> > > > A word of warning on the Eclipse Satine. For me it did not print well
> > > > with either the Piezo inks or the Epson inks. The results were a very
> > > > weak, veiled print.
> > > >
> > > > As beautiful as it is with the MIS VM, other ink sets may require
> > > > some major curve tweaking to get it to work. So proceed with caution.
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > > > It's the Satine, 300 gsms.  It is very white, even whiter than
> > > > torchon. even whiter than epson archival matte. It is very thick,
> > > > luxurious,
> > > > > smooth, and has outstanding blacks. Prints as nice as any paper
> > > > I've ever used, and not to expensive, either. You will love it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > tyork@a... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jerry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the texture like on the Eclipse that you are using? Is
> > > > that
> > > > > > the satine or the velvet? What weight were you using? I have been
> > > > > > away for a few days and am trying to get caught up. Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > (snip)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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