Digital BW, The Print

Some news from Digital Art Supplies about the different versions of the Sundance/R9 software:

"IMAGE EXPORT BW
Image Export BW is an Adobe� Photoshop� export plug-in that runs under the Windows� and Macintosh� operating systems and drives Epson� desktop printers. Export BW allows the user to take advantage of Photoshop��s file handling and image manipulation features in an environment familiar to most photographers and artists. The Windows� version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop� versions 5 and higher. All 32-bit versions of Windows� are supported.  The Macintosh� version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop� versions 5 and higher. The new announcement is that a version for MacOS 10.1 is now available.  This software was written to work best with Sundance Neutral Warm & Neutral Cool inks.   The purchase price is $149.95 http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/r9imexbwplug.html

BWPRO
BWPro is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows� operating system and drives Epson� desktop and wide-format printers. All 32-bit versions of Windows� are supported.  The RIP drives Epson� desktop and wide-format printers, up to 42� in width. A single licensed RIP can drive multiple printers at the same time. The RIP uses �extended� ICQ profiles, that can be manipulated via a unique user interface called �K to L mapping�, and that allow the user to apply the characteristics of the B&W printing system when previewing an image.http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sunbwepripst.html  This can be purchased as a system with Sundance inks or as standalone software.


BWPRO LITE
BWPro Lite is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows� operating system and drives Epson� desktop printers. All 32-bit versions of Windows� are supported.

http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sundancebwpro.html"



The BWPRO is selling for $1,450 and the BWPRO LITE for $495. Looks like they are trying to fill the same price ranges as PiezoPro and ImagePrint. I assume that this is the same software as the Piezo plugin and PiezoPro. Does anyone have any experience to relate to using the PiezoPro with desktop printers?


Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Martin,

Have you posted this on the Piezo listserve?  

Things in the world of digital B&W printing are getting more 
complicated.

From the description, this software sounds the same as Piezo plugin 
and Piezo Pro.  The current Piezo Pro software is about to be 
replaced by a new version.  On top of that, ImagePrint, who I believe 
orginally developed "Piezo2" (not pursued) for Jon Cone, have their 
own advanced B&W solution as part of their RIP, which of course has 
one advantage, in that it drives colour printers too.

We will shortly therefore have a choice of three competing B&W Pro 
level RIPs:  The B&WPRO from Sundance (presumably a new incarnation 
of the current Cone RIP), the new Piezo Pro RIP from Jon Cone, and 
the ImagePrint 5 colour/B&W RIP.  

Market is getting a bit crowded all of a sudden :-)

To answer your question, I have printed to a 1160 using Piezo B&W 
Pro, and the result looked pretty identical to using the plugin. 
--

Quentin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Some news from Digital Art Supplies about the different versions of 
the Sundance/R9 software:
> 
> "IMAGE EXPORT BW
> Image Export BW is an Adobe® Photoshop® export plug-in that runs 
under the Windows® and Macintosh® operating systems and drives Epson® 
desktop printers. Export BW allows the user to take advantage of 
Photoshop®'s file handling and image manipulation features in an 
environment familiar to most photographers and artists. The Windows® 
version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop® versions 5 and 
higher. All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The 
Macintosh® version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop® versions 
5 and higher. The new announcement is that a version for MacOS 10.1 
is now available.  This software was written to work best with 
Sundance Neutral Warm & Neutral Cool inks.   The purchase price is 
$149.95 http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/r9imexbwplug.html
> 
> BWPRO
> BWPro is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows® 
operating system and drives Epson® desktop and wide-format printers. 
All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The RIP drives Epson® 
desktop and wide-format printers, up to 42" in width. A single 
licensed RIP can drive multiple printers at the same time. The RIP 
uses "extended" ICQ profiles, that can be manipulated via a unique 
user interface called "K to L mapping', and that allow the user to 
apply the characteristics of the B&W printing system when previewing 
an image.http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sunbwepripst.html  This 
can be purchased as a system with Sundance inks or as standalone 
software.
> 
> 
> BWPRO LITE
> BWPro Lite is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows® 
operating system and drives Epson® desktop printers. All 32-bit 
versions of Windows® are supported.
> 
> http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sundancebwpro.html"
> 
> 
> 
> The BWPRO is selling for $1,450 and the BWPRO LITE for $495. Looks 
like they are trying to fill the same price ranges as PiezoPro and 
ImagePrint. I assume that this is the same software as the Piezo 
plugin and PiezoPro. Does anyone have any experience to relate to 
using the PiezoPro with desktop printers?

> 
> 
> Martin Wesley
> 
> http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Actually it's not correct.

BW Pro is the RIP for the wide format printers $1450

BW Pro lite is the same RIP but for desktop printers only $ 495

Image Export is the stand alone PhotoShop plug in  for desktop 
printers $150

Steve





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "qdfb" <qdb@b...> wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> Have you posted this on the Piezo listserve?  
> 
> Things in the world of digital B&W printing are getting more 
> complicated.
> 
> From the description, this software sounds the same as Piezo plugin 
> and Piezo Pro.  The current Piezo Pro software is about to be 
> replaced by a new version.  On top of that, ImagePrint, who I 
believe 
> orginally developed "Piezo2" (not pursued) for Jon Cone, have their 
> own advanced B&W solution as part of their RIP, which of course has 
> one advantage, in that it drives colour printers too.
> 
> We will shortly therefore have a choice of three competing B&W Pro 
> level RIPs:  The B&WPRO from Sundance (presumably a new incarnation 
> of the current Cone RIP), the new Piezo Pro RIP from Jon Cone, and 
> the ImagePrint 5 colour/B&W RIP.  
> 
> Market is getting a bit crowded all of a sudden :-)
> 
> To answer your question, I have printed to a 1160 using Piezo B&W 
> Pro, and the result looked pretty identical to using the plugin. 
> --
> 
> Quentin
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > Some news from Digital Art Supplies about the different versions 
of 
> the Sundance/R9 software:
> > 
> > "IMAGE EXPORT BW
> > Image Export BW is an Adobe® Photoshop® export plug-in that runs 
> under the Windows® and Macintosh® operating systems and drives 
Epson® 
> desktop printers. Export BW allows the user to take advantage of 
> Photoshop®'s file handling and image manipulation features in an 
> environment familiar to most photographers and artists. The 
Windows® 
> version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop® versions 5 and 
> higher. All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The 
> Macintosh® version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop® 
versions 
> 5 and higher. The new announcement is that a version for MacOS 10.1 
> is now available.  This software was written to work best with 
> Sundance Neutral Warm & Neutral Cool inks.   The purchase price is 
> $149.95 http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/r9imexbwplug.html
> > 
> > BWPRO
> > BWPro is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows® 
> operating system and drives Epson® desktop and wide-format 
printers. 
> All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The RIP drives 
Epson® 
> desktop and wide-format printers, up to 42" in width. A single 
> licensed RIP can drive multiple printers at the same time. The RIP 
> uses "extended" ICQ profiles, that can be manipulated via a unique 
> user interface called "K to L mapping', and that allow the user to 
> apply the characteristics of the B&W printing system when 
previewing 
> an image.http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sunbwepripst.html  This 
> can be purchased as a system with Sundance inks or as standalone 
> software.
> > 
> > 
> > BWPRO LITE
> > BWPro Lite is a raster image processor that runs under the 
Windows® 
> operating system and drives Epson® desktop printers. All 32-bit 
> versions of Windows® are supported.
> > 
> > http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sundancebwpro.html"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The BWPRO is selling for $1,450 and the BWPRO LITE for $495. 
Looks 

> like they are trying to fill the same price ranges as PiezoPro and 
> ImagePrint. I assume that this is the same software as the Piezo 
> plugin and PiezoPro. Does anyone have any experience to relate to 
> using the PiezoPro with desktop printers?
> > 
> > 
> > Martin Wesley
> > 
> > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is this fishy ?

BW Pro=Piezography BW pro=Imageprint 5.0=~1500

BW Pro lite = Imageprint 5.0 (desktop) = $495

Image Export=Piezography plugin=$150

Is this a collusion or are R9=Piezography=Imageprint.

I think the connection is between current Piezography products and 
the new BW Pro products, which have (I believe) a common origin.

ImagePrint is a seperate product.  Colorbyte were at one time working 
to help Inkjetmall with a new version of the Piezography software, 
but are no longer doing so, and my understanding is that Inkjetmall 
are working with others to that end. 

The only apparent connection is between the *current", but soon to be 
replaced, Inkjetmall Peizography product, and the BW Pro product.

So, if all this is correct, then it appears there will be three 
different products and suppliers to choose from soon, which means 
more choice for us.

I use Piezography Pro, the current inkjetmall product, and have 
ImagePrint 5 on order.

Quentin



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "lawrencetrek" 
<ltitle@h...> wrote:

> Is this fishy ?
> 
> BW Pro=Piezography BW pro=Imageprint 5.0=~1500
> 
> BW Pro lite = Imageprint 5.0 (desktop) = $495
> 
> Image Export=Piezography plugin=$150
> 
> Is this a collusion or are R9=Piezography=Imageprint.