Digital BW, The Print

Hi folks,

What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak 
Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print reasonably 
well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try glossy 
however)? How well would the inks sit on it?

That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer 
(which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to render 
the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment like 
that :)

Thanks for your help.

Alfie

Hi Alfie,

I would guess that you could print on it but remember it contains sensitized silver that will darken fairly rapidly on exposure to light unless fixed.

Roger

  -----Original Message-----
  From: wangalb [mailto:leica_phile@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:43 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] What would happen if I used inkjet on Kodak Polymax fiber based paper?


  Hi folks,

  What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak 
  Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print reasonably 
  well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try glossy 
  however)? How well would the inks sit on it?

  That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer 
  (which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to render 
  the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment like 
  that :)

  Thanks for your help.

  Alfie


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True, unfixed Polymax would suffer from black specks appearing in the 
print which would have some pretty odd effect. considering that we 
have tons of Polymax at the local camera shop I wouldn't be surprised 
how much of it is already unfixed and rather stodgy by now :)

Hmm... I wonder what an inkjet print w/ silver specks look like?

> Hi Alfie,
> 
> I would guess that you could print on it but remember it contains 
sensitized silver that will darken fairly rapidly on exposure to 
light unless fixed.
> 
> Roger

Quality will be terrible. Photo paper just doesn't work in inkjet printers.

jerry

wangalb wrote:

> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak
> Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print reasonably
> well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try glossy
> however)? How well would the inks sit on it?
> 
> That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer
> (which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to render
> the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment like
> that :)
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Alfie
> 
> 
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Surely this is one of the most idot questions asked here, it has to 
be a "wind up" 
Or will it start one of those endless useless threads?
Please,please do not respond to me, I already know what you are 
going to say.

Lets keep the forum to DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint. Off topic if 
more than a couple of messages long should be done via private 
exchanges. 

Barry


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Quality will be terrible. Photo paper just doesn't work in inkjet 
printers.
> 
> jerry
> 
> wangalb wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak
> > Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print 
reasonably
> > well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try 
glossy
> > however)? How well would the inks sit on it?
> > 
> > That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer
> > (which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to 
render
> > the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment 
like
> > that :)
> > 
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Alfie
> > 
> > 
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page 
is at:
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Uh....lighten up, Barry. For all you know, Alfie is looking at doing
multimedia work by doing a traditional darkroom print, then adding to it
using an inkjet printer. Hardly OT, and in any case hardly up to you to
decide, let alone call him an "idiot" for asking a simple question.

Doug

> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:03:57 -0000
> From: "flyfishingusa2002" <tflyfish@...>
> Subject: Re: What would happen if I used inkjet on Kodak Polymax fiber based
> paper?
> 
> Surely this is one of the most idot questions asked here, it has to
> be a "wind up" 
> Or will it start one of those endless useless threads?
> Please,please do not respond to me, I already know what you are
> going to say.
> 
> Lets keep the forum to DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint. Off topic if
> more than a couple of messages long should be done via private
> exchanges. 
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
>> Quality will be terrible. Photo paper just doesn't work in inkjet
> printers.
>> 
>> jerry
>> 
>> wangalb wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak
>>> Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print
> reasonably
>>> well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try
> glossy
>>> however)? How well would the inks sit on it?
>>> 
>>> That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer
>>> (which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to
> render
>>> the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment
> like
>>> that :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Alfie
>>> 
>>>

Tuesday, August 27, 2002, 11:56:06 AM, Doug I. wrote:

DI> Uh....lighten up, Barry. For all you know, Alfie is looking at doing
DI> multimedia work by doing a traditional darkroom print, then adding to it
DI> using an inkjet printer. Hardly OT, and in any case hardly up to you to
DI> decide, let alone call him an "idiot" for asking a simple question.

DI> Doug


Doug,

He didn't call him an "idiot", he called him an "idot".

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

Hmm... how did I turn into a i "dot" com?

puzzled, Alfie

> 
> Doug,
> 
> He didn't call him an "idiot", he called him an "idot".
> 
> Best regards,
>  Richard  
> 
> mailto:richard@c...

> Hmm... how did I turn into a i "dot" com?
> 
> puzzled, Alfie

I'd think you'd be an "a dot", Alfie.

Tim

-- 
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http://www.borderless-photos.de
http://www.borderless-photos.com

Well, at Midnight, the "i dot com" fairy comes around with her magic
wand, and......



wangalb wrote:

> 
> Hmm... how did I turn into a i "dot" com?
> 
> puzzled, Alfie
> 
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > He didn't call him an "idiot", he called him an "idot".
> >
> > Best regards,
> >  Richard
> >
> > mailto:richard@c...
> 
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Alfie,

I asked this question myself a long while back and someone who had tried it
with Ilford paper responded. I regret that I do not recall who did the
trial. If you do not fix and wash the silver paper it will turn very dark
gray with exposure to light. once it has been fixed, washed and dried the
surface is very hard and there is no ink penetration. So basically the ink
does not stick to the paper. This was done with pigment inks. Perhaps with
dye inks it would be a different matter but I am doubtful of success.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "wangalb" <leica_phile@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:42 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] What would happen if I used inkjet on Kodak Polymax
fiber based paper?


> Hi folks,
>
> What would happen to my Epson C80 if I tried to stick in Kodak
> Polymax fiber based paper into it? Would the inkjet print reasonably
> well on traditional photographic fiber paper (I wouldn't try glossy
> however)? How well would the inks sit on it?
>
> That would be cool if it would work but if it damages the printer
> (which I wouldn't suspect) or the inks would smudge or fail to render
> the picture well then this would save me the time to experiment like
> that :)
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Alfie
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
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>
>
>
>
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>
>

I did it using the original stylus color in 1993-94 with dye inks and had
the same result Martin.

Peter


on 8/27/02 8:19 PM, Martin Wesley at mwesley250@... wrote:

> Alfie,
> 
> I asked this question myself a long while back and someone who had tried it
> with Ilford paper responded. I regret that I do not recall who did the
> trial. If you do not fix and wash the silver paper it will turn very dark
> gray with exposure to light. once it has been fixed, washed and dried the
> surface is very hard and there is no ink penetration. So basically the ink
> does not stick to the paper. This was done with pigment inks. Perhaps with
> dye inks it would be a different matter but I am doubtful of success.
> 
> Martin Wesley
> 
> http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html