Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 09/03/2001 12:51:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tyler@... writes:

<<  I am seeing some of that mottling of the ink on the surface, with 
 > the Epson Smooth Fine Art, with MIS dyes. I don't really want to 
 > admit it, because I don't know how to eliminate it. >>

I see the same thing with MIS Pigments  on Epson Smooth Fine Art also!so this 
paper needs custom work. Although the mottle did dry down much smoother in an 
hour or so.
Steve M.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> I see the same thing with MIS Pigments  on Epson Smooth 
Fine Art also!so this 
> paper needs custom work. Although the mottle did dry down 
much smoother in an 
> hour or so.

Steve, Tyler,

I thought I could quickly show how this mottling is showing up. I 
scanned a print that showed this mottling (even after 24 hours 
drydown). Tough to really show critical details over the web, but 
here's a shot. I corrected the scan of the print, to try to make it 
match the original file color, so that mottling was the only 
difference. Have a look:

http://marktucker.com/epson/mottle.html

-Mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...> wrote:

It's clearly there Mark. Are you saying you can print this file with another paper without the problem?
Tyler

> 
> Steve, Tyler,
> 
> I thought I could quickly show how this mottling is showing up. I 
> scanned a print that showed this mottling (even after 24 hours 
> drydown). Tough to really show critical details over the web, but 
> here's a shot. I corrected the scan of the print, to try to make it 
> match the original file color, so that mottling was the only 
> difference. Have a look:
> 
> http://marktucker.com/epson/mottle.html
> 
> -Mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...> wrote:
 
> I thought I could quickly show how this mottling is showing up. I 
> scanned a print that showed this mottling (even after 24 hours 
> drydown). Tough to really show critical details over the web, but 
> here's a shot. 

Mark,
it looks to me like the result of spreading out of a small tonal range - of 
excessive local contrast in the 3/4 tones. Unless it's also visible in the surface 
as caked ink or something, in which case the paper isn't dealing with the ink 
past a certain amount. I wonder if whatever curves are being used to adapt 
the inks to this paper also cause excessive contrast.

But I also have to add a note about the image: it cracked me up and I loved 
the way the moment was caught. Including the nice "round" background blur 
(wide open 80?).

Sometimes all the artifacts distract from the business at hand....

Antonis