Digital BW, The Print

store em nipple side up. otherwise, they will leak.

Jerry

grdglass@... wrote:

> 
> Thanks Jim and Jerry.  I have EZ plugs too, so I will use them instead of
> rivets.
> 
> Jim, would you clarify what is meant by "store the carts
> front face down, or the side that usually faces into printer, down."
> 
> What is the front face?
> 
> Helene
> 
> > I asked Bill Bergh about this many moons ago, now remember he was
> > recomending nomorecarts EZ-plugs for the plugging, and so there would
> > be the bulk of the plastic to deal with if carts were stood upright.
> > Whether this was the reason or no, he told me to store the carts
> > front face down, or the side that usually faces into printer, down. I
> > have done this with two CIS systems and one CFS system with good
> > results.
> >
> >
> >
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> store em nipple side up. otherwise, they will leak.
> 
> Jerry



Odd, Jerry, I never had a problem in the least with leaking front side 
down. I'd be a litle leary to store them upside down, but whatever 
works for you, I guess in the end is what works...Bill Bergh just 
recommended front side down to me  in October 2000 and said not to use 
rubber bands to hold the EZ-plugs in place...and I've been doing it 
like that ever since.

> 
> grdglass@a... wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Jim and Jerry.  I have EZ plugs too, so I will use them 
instead of
> > rivets.
> > 
> > Jim, would you clarify what is meant by "store the carts
> > front face down, or the side that usually faces into printer, 
down."
> > 
> > What is the front face?


If it was an 1280 cart, the face with the chip on it goes down. If you 
don't have an 1280/1290/1290/ other chipped cart/ to look at, 
well-lets see...imagine the cart inserted into the printer. If the 
printer head was transparent and you could see the cart through it, 
then you'd see the back of the cart if you faced the printer bed. The 
FRONT of the cart would not be visible, you'd have to peer over the 
back of printer  (or it's paper tray enterance) and remove the top 
cover to see the  "front" side of cart that faces to the inside of 
printer. Seems hard for me to explain-as you face the printer, it's 
the side of the cart that faces away from you, towards the guts of 
printer.

Said even another way, with the front side down you'd see the exit 
port that contacts the nipple (the bottom of cart) standing vertically 
with the port/EZ-plug  down near table surface.

It's also the filling position for a MIS CFS or vacuum filled cart.
Whew!
Jim H.

> > 
> > Helene
> >

Jim it was the rivets that leaked. What is the difference between rivets
and "EZ" plugs?

Jery

> Odd, Jerry, I never had a problem in the least with leaking front side
> down. I'd be a litle leary to store them upside down, but whatever
> works for you, I guess in the end is what works...Bill Bergh just
> recommended front side down to me  in October 2000 and said not to use
> rubber bands to hold the EZ-plugs in place...and I've been doing it
> like that ever since.

I never had leaks from either the rivits or the EZ-Plugs...but of 
course I mean AFTER they were installed. I did get leaking as I 
installed or removed both. Maybe that's what you refer to. Or maybe 
you had a bad cart seal. Or maybe I'm just lucky<g>. Anyway, the 
EZ-Plugs are around $15, quite a price diff from the Rivets. If you 
want to see them, they may still be on the nomorecarts.com site under 
"accesories". If not there you may find a picture at mediastreet, or 
possibly inkjetart.com

It consists of pins mounted in clear plastic rectangles. One pin for 
the k cart and 3 or 5 pins mounted in a row for the 1160 or 1280 color 
cart, depending. Big advantage is they go in and out fast. 
Disadvantage is I  have had so many crack apart on me it's getting to 
be an old joke. They are replaced under warrenty.
Jim H.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Jim it was the rivets that leaked. What is the difference between 
rivets
> and "EZ" plugs?
> 
> Jery
> 
> > Odd, Jerry, I never had a problem in the least with leaking front 
side
> > down. I'd be a litle leary to store them upside down, but whatever
> > works for you, I guess in the end is what works...Bill Bergh just
> > recommended front side down to me  in October 2000 and said not to 
use
> > rubber bands to hold the EZ-plugs in place...and I've been doing 
it
> > like that ever since.

Don't you just love the quality of which things are made? $15 for a 5
cent piece of plastic that breaks the second or third time you use it. 

Bah! Humbuggery!

Jerry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Don't you just love the quality of which things are made? $15 for a 
5
> cent piece of plastic that breaks the second or third time you use 
it. 
> 
> Bah! Humbuggery!
> 
> Jerry

The weird thing is though Jerry, is that I never had one crack while 
installing or removing. The plastic seems to either crack on it's own 
or I'm thinking that it's real sensitive to cleaning with something 
like Fantastik or other then tepid water. Or maybe the dry climate 
here, I don't know. I still think they're a better solution than MIS 
Rivits for most purposes, I just keep an extra set on hand that I can 
use, if waiting for a new one to arrive thru warranty.
Jim H.