Digital BW, The Print

i am a long time gelatin silver print maker and i am transitioning 
to inkjet printing. just added the epson2200 and plan to make 11x14 
b&w prints from scanned negatives(2720dpi) and 5 megapixel SHQ 
digital files. i'm looking to communicate with folks who are doing 
similiar work.

Yonci (your name?)

search the archives here as well as the archivalcolor group for tips. I have a 
2200 and have tried bw.  Decent, but not like a quad printer.

In brief: The biggest problem is that if you set the driver to "no adjustment", the 
grayscale dips to black at about 90%. Everyone has told me to use Photo 
Realistic and related settings (see also luminous landscapes for a lot of info). I 
have yet  to this date to see a good grayscale on EAM, Premium Luster or 
Watercolor paper (matte K). The neutrality is OK but the shadows are not, or 
vice versa.  Also, dmax is good on EAM and Luster but not on art papers like 
Museo, Eclipse, PhotoRag etc.  These are not final conclusions, I am still very 
much experimenting - just wanted to fill you in on what the discourse has 
been.

Read up on this, play with settings and then, please report your findings. The 
wisdom out there is that you have to either get custom profiles for this to work 
well, or use the ImagePrint driver (currently only for PC, the Mac version on 
the way). Also, I am told that custom 7600 profiles do not work on the 2200. 
See the epson9000 list  for details. Bummer!


Good luck.


Antonis






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "yonci2000" <bcottman@w...> wrote:

> i am a long time gelatin silver print maker and i am transitioning 
> to inkjet printing. just added the epson2200 and plan to make 11x14 
> b&w prints from scanned negatives(2720dpi) and 5 megapixel SHQ 
> digital files. i'm looking to communicate with folks who are doing 
> similiar work.

For what it is worth, any time you are trying to get proper results 
with color ink, whether you are trying to produce a color print or a 
grayscale print, you must spend the money and time to avail yourself of 
decent tools (software & spectro), learn to use them properly, and 
build custom profiles for each and every printer/driver/ink/paper 
combination you intent to use in printing. Failure to do so will result 
in the most futile exercises in frustration you can imagine, while 
doing so will certainly bring gratifying results, depending upon the 
quality of your tools and methodology.

Yes, you must always use custom profiles. No, profiles do not translate 
from one 2200 to another 2200, let alone from a 2200 to a 7600.

Sorry to make such definitive statements, but this is one I have a lot 
of experience behind and can make soundly.

/eddie

On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 04:24  AM, Antonis Ricos wrote:

> Read up on this, play with settings and then, please report your 
> findings. The
> wisdom out there is that you have to either get custom profiles for 
> this to work
> well, or use the ImagePrint driver (currently only for PC, the Mac 
> version on
> the way). Also, I am told that custom 7600 profiles do not work on the 
> 2200.
> See the epson9000 list  for details. Bummer!

well, or use the ImagePrint driver (currently only for PC, the Mac 
version on 
> the way).

I spoke to the folks at Imageprint and the Mac version is out 
already.  It's the 2200 that is impossible find.

www.michaelfaye.com

bhphoto.com just received a shipment of Epson 2200's for those that were
looking for them...guess they weren't on a boat in long beach after all.

Robert

Costco.com also has 'em in, for $619.99.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Morrison 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: epson2200


  bhphoto.com just received a shipment of Epson 2200's for those that were
  looking for them...guess they weren't on a boat in long beach after all.

  Robert



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just downloaded the gray balancer software from 
www.epson.fr/support/pilotes/inkjet/index.shtml and the english 
language patch from www.fors.net/2200/EPGB-English-Patch.exe

the 100 page instruction manual (acrobat file) is in french. does 
anyone have a source for an english language version?