Digital BW, The Print

-----Original Message-----
From: Shire,Stanley [mailto:sshire@...] 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:07 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Eye1revalation


Short story:
I borrowed a Gretag/Macbeth Eye1 from one of our vendors. Created a few
profiles on various papers (EAM, HWM, Epson Somerset Velvet.)
I printed a few grayscale images on the Epson 10000 (archival). They
were the most neutral prints I have seen from a 6 color printer. Close
to my quads on the 3000. A print of a 21 step grayscale confirmed this.
Separation in all steps, no color shift at any point. This was with the
Epson driver. Either the stars were aligned properly or the Eye1(with
Eye1 match software) created some of the best profiles I have seen.
Revalations are so few and far between that I just had to share this.

>
>
> Stan Shire, M.Ed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Granfield [mailto:luke@...] 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:42 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Eye1revalation
 
Stan,

How necessary is it to have profile editing software (say Profile Maker
4.0)
to use in conjunction with the Eye1 profile generator? Are there some
significant tweaks using this software that can improve the profile or
can
you tweak it sufficiently with the Eye1 software?

Thanks,

Luke

P.S. I have an excellent Eye1 generated profile for EAM on the 2200 done
by
someone else specifically for my printer. Got it at
www.outbackphoto.com.
Really opened my eyes to the value of profiles.




> Short story:
> I borrowed a Gretag/Macbeth Eye1 from one of our vendors. Created a
few
profiles on various papers (EAM, HWM, Epson Somerset Velvet.)
> I printed a few grayscale images on the Epson 10000 (archival). They
were
the most neutral prints I have seen from a 6 color printer. Close to my
quads on the 3000. A print of a 21 step grayscale confirmed this.
Separation
in all steps, no color shift at any point. This was with the Epson
driver.
Either the stars were aligned properly or the Eye1(with Eye1 match
software)
created some of the best profiles I have seen. Revalations are so few
and
far between that I just had to share this.
>
>
> Stan Shire, M.Ed.





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> Last summer when I took Andrew Rodney's color management course at Sanat
> Fe Workshops, we used bot Eyeone match and Profilemaker Pro.
> Match does not have a profile editor. That said, I can't see any tweaks
> that I would want to make with the profiles that I did early this week.
> The tweaks would, of course, be personal preferences for density,
> saturation, etc.
> We will be getting 4 Eyeones this summer for our new digital printing
> course. I am counting on at least one license for Profilemaker Pro
> because profile editing must be a component of the course.
> S.
>
> Stan Shire