Digital BW, The Print

Martin Wesley wrote:

> For those of you who have been printing B&W or monochrome prints
> using Epson color inks and Epson papers, Epson has released their new
> ColorLife paper. It is rated by Wilhelm (He's sort of back.) at
> around 25 years which is equivalent to the best silver based color
> had had to offer.

Not to be picky, but I thought that the Fuji Crystal Archive, glossy (color paper, for printing from color
negatives) was rated (by Wilhelm) for 75 to 100 years.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC


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I thought 65-75
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> From: SKID Photography <skid@...>
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> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 18:14:34 -0400
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ColorLife Paper for B&W Pints with Epson Inks
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> Martin Wesley wrote:
> 
>> For those of you who have been printing B&W or monochrome prints
>> using Epson color inks and Epson papers, Epson has released their new
>> ColorLife paper. It is rated by Wilhelm (He's sort of back.) at
>> around 25 years which is equivalent to the best silver based color
>> had had to offer.
> 
> Not to be picky, but I thought that the Fuji Crystal Archive, glossy (color
> paper, for printing from color
> negatives) was rated (by Wilhelm) for 75 to 100 years.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
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Harvey,

You are correct. I was thinking of Ilfochrome but I guess that has 
fallen as a silver color standard.

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography 
<skid@b...> wrote:
> Martin Wesley wrote:
> 
> > For those of you who have been printing B&W or monochrome prints
> > using Epson color inks and Epson papers, Epson has released their 
new
> > ColorLife paper. It is rated by Wilhelm (He's sort of back.) at
> > around 25 years which is equivalent to the best silver based color
> > had had to offer.
> 
> Not to be picky, but I thought that the Fuji Crystal Archive, 
glossy (color paper, for printing from color

> negatives) was rated (by Wilhelm) for 75 to 100 years.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Martin's citation of 60 Wilhelm years for Fuji's Crystal Archive is 
consistent with Wilhelm's web site's current (9/1) update.

Some version of MediaStreet's Generations, I'm not sure which, is 
however, now at 75 and counting, and presumably short of 100, Wilhelm 
years on Royal Plush.

Ektacolor Edge 8 is at 22 Wilhelm years; is that silver?

Sam

>Harvey,
>
>You are correct. I was thinking of Ilfochrome but I guess that has
>fallen as a silver color standard.
>
>Martin
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography
><skid@b...> wrote:
> > Martin Wesley wrote:
> >
> > > For those of you who have been printing B&W or monochrome prints
> > > using Epson color inks and Epson papers, Epson has released their
>new
> > > ColorLife paper. It is rated by Wilhelm (He's sort of back.) at
> > > around 25 years which is equivalent to the best silver based color
> > > had had to offer.
> >
> > Not to be picky, but I thought that the Fuji Crystal Archive,
>glossy (color paper, for printing from color
> > negatives) was rated (by Wilhelm) for 75 to 100 years.
> >
> > Harvey Ferdschneider
> > partner, SKID Photography, NYC

Hi Sam!

How's it going? The Ektacolor Edge 8 is a silver based media but that 
is about all I know about it. There is a nice table of revised 
Wilhelm data at:

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,50663,pg,2,00.asp

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Sam A. McCandless" 
<samcc@v...> wrote:
> Martin's citation of 60 Wilhelm years for Fuji's Crystal Archive is 
> consistent with Wilhelm's web site's current (9/1) update.
> 
> Some version of MediaStreet's Generations, I'm not sure which, is 
> however, now at 75 and counting, and presumably short of 100, 
Wilhelm 
> years on Royal Plush.
> 
> Ektacolor Edge 8 is at 22 Wilhelm years; is that silver?
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
> >Harvey,
> >
> >You are correct. I was thinking of Ilfochrome but I guess that has
> >fallen as a silver color standard.
> >
> >Martin
> >
> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography
> ><skid@b...> wrote:
> > > Martin Wesley wrote:
> > >
> > > > For those of you who have been printing B&W or monochrome 
prints
> > > > using Epson color inks and Epson papers, Epson has released 
their
> >new
> > > > ColorLife paper. It is rated by Wilhelm (He's sort of back.) 
at
> > > > around 25 years which is equivalent to the best silver based 
color

> > > > had had to offer.
> > >
> > > Not to be picky, but I thought that the Fuji Crystal Archive,
> >glossy (color paper, for printing from color
> > > negatives) was rated (by Wilhelm) for 75 to 100 years.
> > >
> > > Harvey Ferdschneider
> > > partner, SKID Photography, NYC