Digital BW, The Print

I've been printing with Piezography inks on an 1160 on Photo Rag and am 
still deciding whether to switch to a 7600, and want to get the 
deepest, richest blacks possible for which the alternatives I suppose 
are as follows:

1. Instead of using Matte Black with matte papers use Photo Black with 
glossy-type papers like Epson Premium Semi-Matte: does any one have a 
D-max measurement of the latter versus the former?

2. Use a coating on the prints: what are the differences in appearance 
and D-max in coating prints with Matte Black on matte paper versus 
Photo Black on glossy-type paper?

3. Print a digital negative which is then used to make a silver print 
(about which I know nothing): can one print to a transparency material 
which can then be contact printed as a silver print? What transparency 
material does one use? How large a print can be made -- 16x24 inches , 
24x36 inches?

--Mitch/Paris

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Mitch Alland 
<malland@m...> wrote:
> I've been printing with Piezography inks on an 1160 on Photo 
Rag and am 
> still deciding whether to switch to a 7600, and want to get the 
> deepest, richest blacks possible..

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Mitch, 

Forget #2. If you have anxiety now, just add that to the mix and it'll 
put you over the edge. Huge amounts of post-production, drying 
time, fear of airborn crap landing on it when it's wet, etc. The list 
is endless.

Forget #3. Take amount of post-production time in #2 and then 
double it.

I'd pursue #1. 

The only other option that's remotely acceptable is to use Matte 
Black with Archival Matte. The black level is so-so. (Doesn't that 
get you fired up about trying it?)

-Mark Tucker
In Search of #4

> 3. Print a digital negative which is then used to make a silver print
> (about which I know nothing): can one print to a transparency material
> which can then be contact printed as a silver print? What transparency
> material does one use? How large a print can be made -- 16x24 inches ,
> 24x36 inches?


People print to pictorio, or have their digital file output to film
recorders, or to imagesetters, even lightjet.

http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process
http://www.danburkholder.com

do a search for inkjet negatives or the like, you'll find a ton of info.

Carolyn

> 
> Forget #3. Take amount of post-production time in #2 and then
> double it.

only double Mark?


> -Mark Tucker
> In Search of #4
 your quest is never ending...


Carolyn

For:  "Mark Tucker" <mark@...>

Mark:

> I'd pursue #1. [i.e., Photo Black with glossy-type paper]

What glossy-type papers do you tried, and what would you recommend?

I have to order some paper to take with me to Bangkok and was thinking 
of getting a couple of rolls Epson Premium Semi-Matte (only available 
in rolls) and some packages of A4-sized Epson Premium Luster.

What is Epson Semi-Gloss like, or is it the same as the Lustre?


> The only other option that's remotely acceptable is to use Matte
> Black with Archival Matte. The black level is so-so. (Doesn't that
> get you fired up about trying it?)

Ugh. But I suppose if I start with #1, and wait a while something may 
develop in terms of either improved Matte Black or improved matte paper.

Mitch/Paris