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Re: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

Re: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

2002-11-15 by John/Julie Gittins

Paul,
You might take a look at 1/4" safety glass. It's very stable stuff. The glass 
store should be able to round the corners for you, which will make it hand-friendly 
as well as durable. I used to use a piece for sqeegeeing water from my (chem) prints 
before putting them on a drying rack; it made a great support. I suspect 1/4" glass is 
very flat, but I never did check with anything but the squeegee blade -- with that, I didn't 
discern any gaps between the blade and the glass.
John Gittins    
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:07 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s


  This morning I coated my first Eclipse 16x20 (17x22 paper) with a wire-wound
  rod and polyurethane.  The process appears to scale-up to this level without
  too much trouble.

  The main problem I had in setting up is that I have no totally-flat counter
  top.  (I use a plywood sheet over my darkroom wet-sink as a working space.)
  I ended up using two 22x28 picture-frame glass sheets on top of this plywood
  to try to smooth the surface.  I found that to get the surface flat I needed
  to put some pieces of paper between the two in certain areas.  I used a good
  straight-edge to be sure the surface was flat.  With that on the top glass,
  I tried to slip a piece of paper between the straight-edge and the glass.
  If I could, I knew I had a low spot where I needed to put some paper between
  the two pieces of glass.

  At any rate, having set up the counter yesterday, the process of coating the
  16x20 today was rather easy.  From taping down the top of the print to
  finishing clean-up took 10 minutes.

  The results are not 100% perfect yet.  Looking at reflected light off the
  surface of the print, the coating shows some signs of unevenness -- slight
  "banding" from the rod not being even against the print.  This is probably,
  in part, my counter top problem.  Also, I did not follow my 8x10 procedure
  in that I didn't have a couple of pieces of copy paper under the print.
  Some butcher paper might be the answer here -- and also help with clean-up.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com




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[Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

2002-11-16 by Paul Roark

The last time I reported my progress on scaling up to a 16x20, I noted that
I had some unevenness, perhaps due, in part, to my less-than-ideal counter
top and working surface.

I have now upgraded to a 1/4" thick glass and a flatter counter top
(melamine-coated particle board -- still not perfectly flat but OK).
Additionally, I used a towel between the counter top and the glass.
Finally, I used two pieces of butcher paper between the glass and the bottom
of the print.

I'm happy to report the 16x20 I just coated looks fine.  There is no
apparent unevenness.

So, the coating system definitely scales to 16x20.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

RE: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

2002-11-16 by Shire,Stanley

Paul:
The flattest man-made product is MDF (medium density fiberboard.) The
melamime board is on a standard particle board surface which is not as
flat and can exhibit swelling with changes in humidity (i.e. hung over a
darkroom sink.) One thing that will help the melamime to remain flat is
to use the melamime iron-on edging to seal the edges. My preference
though would be to apply plastic laminate (Formica, Wilsonart, etc) to
mdf board (top, bottom and edges.)
S.
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops

215 751-8320
sshire@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 1:42 AM
To: DigitalB&WPrint
Subject: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s
 
The last time I reported my progress on scaling up to a 16x20, I noted
that
I had some unevenness, perhaps due, in part, to my less-than-ideal
counter
top and working surface.

I have now upgraded to a 1/4" thick glass and a flatter counter top
(melamine-coated particle board -- still not perfectly flat but OK).
Additionally, I used a towel between the counter top and the glass.
Finally, I used two pieces of butcher paper between the glass and the
bottom
of the print.

I'm happy to report the 16x20 I just coated looks fine.  There is no
apparent unevenness.

So, the coating system definitely scales to 16x20.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com



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Re: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

2002-11-17 by Peter Marquis-Kyle

Shire,Stanley wrote:
> Paul:
> The flattest man-made product is MDF (medium density fiberboard.) 

Flatter than float glass? I'd be surprised if it were so.

Peter Marquis-Kyle

RE: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s

2002-11-17 by Shire,Stanley

Sorry: 
I was responding to Paul's melamime issue and was targeting in that
product area.
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops

215 751-8320
sshire@...
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From: Peter Marquis-Kyle [mailto:petermk@...] 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:20 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating -- 16x20s
 
Shire,Stanley wrote:
> Paul:
> The flattest man-made product is MDF (medium density fiberboard.) 

Flatter than float glass? I'd be surprised if it were so.

Peter Marquis-Kyle



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