Digital BW, The Print

Hi All-

I make my own holiday cards each year with one of my photographs. Last year
I got together a holiday card exchange on the piezo list with other people
and it was quite worthwhile. I'd like to do the same this year with all
three groups I read (or would read, but I've gotten way behind... In fact
somebody may have already posted something like this and I just haven't
gotten to it yet ;-).

Anyway, if you make your own holiday cards or would consider making some for
the exchange, let me know and I'll put you on the list. PLEASE EMAIL THE
INFO TO ME OFFLIST. This will not be like a print exchange with a central
coordinator; I will collect all the info and then email the list to all the
participants. Each participant then sends out his/her cards to all the other
participants in the list. Judging by last year's response and the fact that
I'm cross-posting this, I'd say you should probably be willing to send out
25-50 cards if you'd like to participate, and you should be willing to send
a few internationally (or a lot internationally if you are not in the U.S.).

If you would like to be part of this, please email me your info in the
following form (there will be much less cutting and pasting of data if
everyone does in the same):

Name
Street
City, State/Province
Zip/Postal Code
Country
Email Address

Again, PLEASE EMAIL THE INFO TO ME OFFLIST. I'll send out the list to all
the participants two weeks from today on the 7th of December, so get me your
info before that. Thanks.

Saturday, November 23, 2002, 5:04:05 AM, Anton Young wrote:

AY> Hi All-

AY> I make my own holiday cards each year with one of my photographs. Last year
AY> I got together a holiday card exchange on the piezo list with other people
AY> and it was quite worthwhile. I'd like to do the same this year with all
AY> three groups I read (or would read, but I've gotten way behind... In fact
AY> somebody may have already posted something like this and I just haven't
AY> gotten to it yet ;-).

Hi Anton,

Which stock and which supplier do you use for your cards?

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Richard Sintchak 
<richard@c...> wrote:
> Saturday, November 23, 2002, 5:04:05 AM, Anton Young wrote:
> 
> AY> Hi All-
> 
> Hi Anton,
> 
> Which stock and which supplier do you use for your cards?
> 
> Best regards,
>  Richard  
> 

I found that precut paper to be terribly expensive for a run of 
cards.  I selected the A7 size as a good compromise between 
image area and convenient size to handle.

What I do is print letter size paper on my 1160 or 1280 and then 
trim to 7 x 10 with a niffty plastic paper trimmer which cuts w/a 
single edge razor.  I found this device at PhotoPlus 2yrs ago.  
The rumor was Kaldess/Brandt (sp?) was going to distribute it.  
You can stack 5 sheets to cut at once.

For paper, I was using EAM until the logo appeared on the back.  
Then I switched to EHM.  I'm using the last of my 
Weber-Valentine paper (there's a piezo profile), but I don't much 
care for the paper.  PhotoRag can be a bit difficult to write on the 
back depending on your writing implement.  Museo is nice, but I 
don't like the way it prints.

Staples does not carry A7 envelopes unfortunately.  These are 
the ones I'm using from APEC:

http://www.Apec-USA.com/APECDotNet/Search/SearchResults.a
spx?Keyword=ncg814

> 
> I found that precut paper to be terribly expensive for a run of 
> cards.  I selected the A7 size as a good compromise between 
> image area and convenient size to handle.

I agree it's pretty expensive.  Although I do like the A7 (5x7)
size, I decided to go slightly smaller.  I take 13x19 paper and
cut it up into 4 pieces giving  6.5 x 9.5 so the resultant card
is 4.75 x 6.5 instead of 5x7.  I still use the A7 envelopes.

Roy

> 
> What I do is print letter size paper on my 1160 or 1280 and 
then 
> trim to 7 x 10 with a niffty plastic paper trimmer which cuts w/a 
> single edge razor.  I found this device at PhotoPlus 2yrs ago.  
> The rumor was Kaldess/Brandt (sp?) was going to distribute it.  
> You can stack 5 sheets to cut at once.
> 
> For paper, I was using EAM until the logo appeared on the 
back.  
> Then I switched to EHM.  I'm using the last of my 
> Weber-Valentine paper (there's a piezo profile), but I don't 
much 
> care for the paper.  PhotoRag can be a bit difficult to write on 
the 
> back depending on your writing implement.  Museo is nice, but 
I 

> don't like the way it prints.
> 
> Staples does not carry A7 envelopes unfortunately.  These are 
> the ones I'm using from APEC:
>

The cost of supplies isn't worth worrying about if you send as few 
cards as I do. But I haven't found pre-cut card stock and matching 
envelopes which I like. So I'm a cut-up too. And therefore have to 
mix and match the card stock and envelopes for myself.

A complementary sheet of stationery is also needed if you want to 
sometimes enclose a letter. I used to just get all three pieces from 
Crane's, usually by calling 1-800-5CRANE6 rather using Crane.com, to 
make sure everything was in stock. And just lived with the dot gain 
when printing on their all-cotton uncoated card stock.

Except for their card stock, I still do. For it, I'm now substituting 
the heavier two-sided Eclipse Bright White, which seems to me to 
match Crane's Fluorescent White well enough. In that shade (only) of 
white, the stationery sheets can be gotten in 8.5x11 un-watermarked 
28lb/105gsm with Crane's "Imaging" finish. Which I think is simply 
smoother (on one side), not coated. In the case of the envelopes, I 
use the A2, A6, and A7 square-flap announcement envelopes; the square 
flaps seem easier both to design for and to print on. But for a more 
panoramic image, Crane's also has square-flapped Monarch and #10 
envelopes.

Typically I print on both sides of the card stock; otherwise I'd try 
to use Crane's Museo instead of the Eclipse. And often I mail cards, 
even holiday cards, as postcards rather than enclosed in envelopes. 
Otherwise, I'd try to use the heavier-weight two-sided PhotoRag Duo. 
But I've heard it probably won't stand up as well in the hands and 
machines of the USPS.

Sam McCancless               samcc@...

> >
> > I found that precut paper to be terribly expensive for a run of
> > cards.  I selected the A7 size as a good compromise between
> > image area and convenient size to handle.
>
>I agree it's pretty expensive.  Although I do like the A7 (5x7)
>size, I decided to go slightly smaller.  I take 13x19 paper and
>cut it up into 4 pieces giving  6.5 x 9.5 so the resultant card
>is 4.75 x 6.5 instead of 5x7.  I still use the A7 envelopes.
>
>Roy
>
> >
> > What I do is print letter size paper on my 1160 or 1280 and
>then
> > trim to 7 x 10 with a niffty plastic paper trimmer which cuts w/a
> > single edge razor.  I found this device at PhotoPlus 2yrs ago.
> > The rumor was Kaldess/Brandt (sp?) was going to distribute it.
> > You can stack 5 sheets to cut at once.
> >
> > For paper, I was using EAM until the logo appeared on the
>back.
> > Then I switched to EHM.  I'm using the last of my
> > Weber-Valentine paper (there's a piezo profile), but I don't
>much
> > care for the paper.  PhotoRag can be a bit difficult to write on
>the
> > back depending on your writing implement.  Museo is nice, but
>I
> > don't like the way it prints.
> >
> > Staples does not carry A7 envelopes unfortunately.  These are
> > the ones I'm using from APEC:
> >