Digital BW, The Print

Hi guys,

Anyone have a preference between Real World Photoshop and Martin 
Evening's Photoshop 7 for Photographers. Woud there be reason to have 
them both.

This is for Photographic applications only.

Tim

I think I borrowed Photoshop 6 for Photographers once and got some 
useful tips... seemed light on B&W though.

If you don't mind the cost it would probably be good to have both 
around, but really, there is so much good stuff on the web... and if 
you are like me, always going to the book store, you can just use 
Borders as a reference library:)

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Timmermans 
<treath@a...>" <treath@a...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Anyone have a preference between Real World Photoshop and Martin 
> Evening's Photoshop 7 for Photographers. Woud there be reason to 
have 

> them both.
> 
> This is for Photographic applications only.
> 
> Tim

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:17:19PM -0000, Tim Timmermans <treath@...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Anyone have a preference between Real World Photoshop and Martin 
> Evening's Photoshop 7 for Photographers. Woud there be reason to have 
> them both.
> 
> This is for Photographic applications only.
> 

The books I find invaluable for photography are (in order of preference):

Real World Photoshop (Fraser & Blatner)
Professional Photoshop: A Classic Guide to Colour Correcion (Margulis)
Photoshop for Photographers (Evening)


Real World Photoshop is the best book I have come across for detailing the
intracacies of colour management in Photoshop. It covers all the major tools
& techniques required by a photographer from scanning to tonal/colour
correction, sharpening, through to targetting for output, etc. 

Margulis' book is superb and should be read by everyone who has to colour
correct images and prepare them for output. It has a prepress slant to it
and favours CMYK for many manipulations but don't let that put you off.
The chapter on techniques for converting colour images to greyscale is 
worth the price of the book alone. Nor am I afraid now to delve in and out
of LAB space for the odd change or two.

Evening's book I found useful, but more for some of the specific techniques
he shows. One technique on fixing light-fogged images has saved me a couple
of times. Most of the rest of the book either covers the basics such a tonal
and colour correction (covered in more detal in the previous two books) or
areas that I don't really have much use for like montage techniques. 

One other book that may be of interest is "Photoshop Artistry: Mastering the
Digital Image (Haynes & Crumpler)". This book takes a number of images and
goes through sometimes quite lengthy manipulations, introducing photoshop
tools and techniques along the way, to get a final image - very interesting
to see the approaches used. I would probably get this book before Evening's,
but only after the first two.

-- 
Tony Terlecki
ajt@...

on 12/12/02 7:24 PM, Tony Terlecki at ajt@... wrote:

> Real World Photoshop is the best book I have come across for detailing the
> intracacies of colour management in Photoshop.

Best book on the subject IMHO and a lot of other areas (sharpening, tonal
corrections etc). I¹ve had every copy since RWP 4.0 and each is dog eared
and yellowed from makers. This is the first book I¹d have on the list of
must haves. 

> Margulis' book is superb and should be read by everyone who has to colour
> correct images and prepare them for output.
> 
As long as you understand it¹s very CMYK centric and not too CMS friendly. I
find Dan¹s writing voice difficult to follow (unlike Bruce and David).

Andrew Rodney  


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