Re: [Digital BW] Aye! There's the Rub...was William Turner paper
2002-12-14 by Jerry Olson
Best thing to do in these situations is try the advice from both parties. Since I began rubbing the hahnemuhle papers with a very soft cloth, (Fairly hard), I haven't had any flaking. And I don't see any problems with the looks of the paper. It doesn't seem to affect it at all. But I somehow think if a paper flakes shortly after printing, it is going to do so even worse in a few years. I still have the Lyson paper samples they sent me about 7 years ago. All of them are about a third flaked off, and they've just been sitting in a drawer. They had terrible flaking when I got them, and I was wondering why they would have even sent them out. I believe the lyson papers are just renamed hahnemuhle papers that cost more than the original hahnemuhle. You would think by now that these paper companies would have solved this problem. Surely they must be aware of it. They should at the very least, put more coating on their papers! Jerry "jim hayes " wrote:
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> > Wow, what a basic subject such as how hard to rub a paper prior to > printing can excise a variety of views.<g> > > As a practical matter for me, as a new Photorag user (I've used Turner > a little bit a long time ago), what really is the best way to go with > Photorag paper? In my climate it is dry, and I had problems in the > past, although I now have a humidifier set with an electronic gizmo to > keep level around 40% RH. > > I'd use 308 gsm in letter and 13x19 sizes. > > I've used a drafting brush on Eclipse with good sucess. TSS photo > recomends an anti-static glove whisk across Photorag....maybe > somewhere between Carolyn and Jerry?? Or? > > I assume if I don't spray the image with Printguard or something, it > will also scuff up fast. > TIA, > JIm H. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Olson > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > I've never had any burnishing problems, and I've been doing this for > a > > while now. Just be sure the cloth is very soft. Rub fairly hard. > > Brushing isn't really good enough, wells river really flakes, > especially > > if you have large areas of black in the image. > > > > jerry > > > > > > > > Carolyn Frayn wrote: > > > > > > > What are some of the things you can do to avoid the flaking > problems? > > > > > > I use a good drafting brush and brush it before printing. I find > using cloth > > > can burnish the paper. Not to mention what might be on the cotton > itself > > > that may effect it. > > > > > > Carolyn > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/