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posterization again

posterization again

2002-12-18 by Stephen Kobrin <skobrin@hotmail.com>

At times, I notice posterization -- a very grainy look -- typically 
in areas of sky when the image is scanned.  For example, I scanned an 
image with a large area of gray, cloudy sky where the posterization 
(or break-up) was obvious in the pre-scan.  I use a Nikon LS 2000, 
scanning at 12 bits (16 in PS) and in this instance the film was 
Ilford HP-5.  While I know there are a number of techniques to deal 
with posterization in PS, I wonder if anyone has some ideas about how 
to minimize it when scanning.  When I scan I usually set the white 
and balck points and, at times, use a curve adjustment.  My scanning 
objective is to bring as much information into PS as is possible 
rather than produce an ideal image.  Is this just a function of the 
digital process that has to be dealt with after the fact, or is there 
something that can be done to avoid it in the first place?

Let me add that I joined this group in September and converted my 
1200 to MIS-VM inks shortly thereafter.  I have learned a tremendous 
amount from all of you in a very short time and I want to than 
everyone for their generousity.

Steve

Re: [Digital BW] posterization again

2002-12-18 by Andrew Rodney

on 12/18/02 9:21 AM, Stephen Kobrin <skobrin@...> at
skobrin@hotmail.com wrote:

> At times, I notice posterization -- a very grainy look -- typically
> in areas of sky when the image is scanned.  For example, I scanned an
> image with a large area of gray, cloudy sky where the posterization
> (or break-up) was obvious in the pre-scan.  I use a Nikon LS 2000,
> scanning at 12 bits (16 in PS) and in this instance the film was
> Ilford HP-5.

Keep in mind that some operations in some scanners that tell you they are
working in high bit are not really working in high bit. I¹m NOT suggesting
this is the case with the Nikon because I really don¹t know. What you can
try to do is find a ³Sweet Spot² (using trial and error) where you try and
get raw high bit data from the scanner and avoid using any of the
curves/corrections provided even if it looks flat and ugly. Then try doing
the corrections in Photoshop on the high bit and see if indeed this is
banding and it¹s showing up due to the way you are setting the scanner. It¹s
possible this isn¹t an issue that has anything to do with scanner control
and high bit. Still worth testing.

Also be sure you have no sharpening on when scanning which might be the
culprit as well. 

Andrew Rodney

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