Digital BW, The Print

I'm in the process of moving from traditional analogue black & 
white fibre based printing to digital inkjet printing.
I am wanting to find information/research/opinions on whether to 
continue to shoot b&w neg or to shoot colour transperancy 
(which is much easier to scan?)and convert to greyscale in 
photoshop.

You will get a much better tonality range from B&W neg film vs. 
transparency. Both are easy to scan. You can get up too 8 stops with 
B&W and roughly 3 or 4 stops with transparency.

Justin

On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:05 PM, cwright752003 
<cwright752003@...> wrote:

> I'm in the process of moving from traditional analogue black &
> white fibre based printing to digital inkjet printing.
> I am wanting to find information/research/opinions on whether to
> continue to shoot b&w neg or to shoot colour transperancy
> (which is much easier to scan?)and convert to greyscale in
> photoshop.
>
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I usually work from a B&W negative.  However, I'm now working on an image
that started life as a color slide.  I have periodically shot slides --
nothing like a big projected color image.  However, the 2-1/4 (Rollei SL66)
Ektachrome I'm currently working on is a real pain.  I so wish it were a
good B&W negative.

I shoot the best B&W originals I can if I want the best B&W print I can
make.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

(Web page may be off line due to worm.)


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  Subject: [Digital BW] b&w neg or colour transperancy


  I'm in the process of moving from traditional analogue black &
  white fibre based printing to digital inkjet printing.
  I am wanting to find information/research/opinions on whether to
  continue to shoot b&w neg or to shoot colour transperancy
  (which is much easier to scan?)and convert to greyscale in
  photoshop.



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How about color negative vs. B&W negative?  Given the various 
advantages of being able to manage the conversion from color to B&W 
after shooting the image, as opposed to using filters before hand to 
do that with a B&W negative, is the tonality range of color negatives 
sufficiently close to the B&W negative (i.e., enough greater than 
color positives) to make this option respectable for someone wanting 
to end up with a quality B&W image?

Bill Iverson

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Justin Myers 
<jmyerz@a...> wrote:
> You will get a much better tonality range from B&W neg film vs. 
> transparency. Both are easy to scan. You can get up too 8 stops 
with 
> B&W and roughly 3 or 4 stops with transparency.
> 
> Justin
> 
> On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:05 PM, cwright752003 
> <cwright752003@y...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm in the process of moving from traditional analogue black &
> > white fibre based printing to digital inkjet printing.
> > I am wanting to find information/research/opinions on whether to
> > continue to shoot b&w neg or to shoot colour transperancy
> > (which is much easier to scan?)and convert to greyscale in
> > photoshop.
> >
> >
> >
> <image.tiff>
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Polls 
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First of all, the way a color film and they way a B&W film reacts to 
light is very different, I'm not sure if there is a color curve in 
Photoshop that you could correct for the difference or not.

Second, shooting B&W give you much better control over your exposure 
and development than a color neg will.

If someone wants  a quality B&W image then I would suggest shooting the 
image in B&W,

Justin

On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 07:25 PM, Bill Iverson 
<wiverson@...> wrote:

> How about color negative vs. B&W negative?  Given the various
> advantages of being able to manage the conversion from color to B&W
> after shooting the image, as opposed to using filters before hand to
> do that with a B&W negative, is the tonality range of color negatives
> sufficiently close to the B&W negative (i.e., enough greater than
> color positives) to make this option respectable for someone wanting
> to end up with a quality B&W image?
>
> Bill Iverson
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Justin Myers
> <jmyerz@a...> wrote:
> > You will get a much better tonality range from B&W neg film vs.
> > transparency. Both are easy to scan. You can get up too 8 stops
> with
> > B&W and roughly 3 or 4 stops with transparency.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:05 PM, cwright752003
> > <cwright752003@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm in the process of moving from traditional analogue black &
> > > white fibre based printing to digital inkjet printing.
> > > I am wanting to find information/research/opinions on whether to
> > > continue to shoot b&w neg or to shoot colour transperancy
> > > (which is much easier to scan?)and convert to greyscale in
> > > photoshop.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > <image.tiff>
> > >
> > >
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