Digital BW, The Print

Hi all;

Do any of the folks using Gimp-print have any news? Is it soup yet? 
I'm looking for a B&W rip I can afford, and I'm seriously 
considering installing Linux in a Windows environment so I can try 
Gimp-print, does anyone have any idea if this will work? 
 Also: I spent all last week trying out the Cone Museum K in my 1280 
before putting it in the 7500. It has been very frustrating, one 
cleaning cycle after another. When I finally gave up on it, I was 
doing 1-2 cleaning cycles between every print, and NOT making it 
through a palrty 5x7 without banding.Very frustrating considering I 
know of at least two people (Paul being one) who are having no 
trouble at all using it in their 1160, I wish I had picked one up 
when that new batch hit E-bay a couple weeks back. I suppose I'll 
have to console myself with being able to make 24x36 prints instead 
<G>. 

 I still have 20 sheets of 310gsm 23.5 x 35 William Turner I'd like 
to sell (nice stuff, but need some variety)@ 6.00/sht plus shipping, 
contact me off-list if you're interested

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis <stevek@e...>" <stevek@e...> wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> Do any of the folks using Gimp-print have any news? Is it soup 
yet? 
> I'm looking for a B&W rip I can afford, and I'm seriously 
> considering installing Linux in a Windows environment so I 
can try 
> Gimp-print, does anyone have any idea if this will work? 

Hi Steve and anyone else interested in gimp-print,

This isn't Linux but it ought to work on any system using
cups and gimp-print.  It requires at least a little knowledge
of using a Unix shell to set it up otherwise its quite simple.

-----------------------------

I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about 
quadtone 
printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just about 
the 
easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get 
complete 
control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.

I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the details.

Download:
http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz

Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work but I 
figured
most people would have different printers and different inks.

Roy Harrington
www.harrington.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington 
<roy@h...>" <roy@h...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis <stevek@e...>" <stevek@e...> wrote:
> > Hi all;
> > 
> > Do any of the folks using Gimp-print have any news? Is it soup 
> yet? 
> > I'm looking for a B&W rip I can afford, and I'm seriously 
> > considering installing Linux in a Windows environment so I 
> can try 
> > Gimp-print, does anyone have any idea if this will work? 
> 
> Hi Steve and anyone else interested in gimp-print,
> 
> This isn't Linux but it ought to work on any system using
> cups and gimp-print.  It requires at least a little knowledge
> of using a Unix shell to set it up otherwise its quite simple.
> 
> -----------------------------
> 
> I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about 
> quadtone 
> printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just about 
> the 
> easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get 
> complete 
> control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.
> 
> I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the details.
> 
> Download:
> http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz
> 
> Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work but I 
> figured
> most people would have different printers and different inks.
> 
> Roy Harrington
> www.harrington.com

Thanks Roy I'll download it and check it out. I guess I'm assuming 
that Gimp-print will work on any Unix-based platform, I hope that's 
true.

I've got Roy's system up and running on my mac. It is pretty neat.

My curves are still pretty screwed up for my 1280/VM ink combination,
but I'm sure with some tuning it would work really well.

Of course, I'm completely clueless about curve development, so it
might be a LOT of trial and error (mostly error) before I actually get
anywhere, we'll see.

> I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about 
> quadtone 
> printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just about 
> the 
> easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get 
> complete 
> control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.
> 
> I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the details.
> 
> Download:
> http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz
> 
> Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work but I 
> figured
> most people would have different printers and different inks.
> 
> Roy Harrington
> www.harrington.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis <stevek@e...>" <stevek@e...> wrote:

> > Hi Steve and anyone else interested in gimp-print,
> > 
> > This isn't Linux but it ought to work on any system using
> > cups and gimp-print.  It requires at least a little knowledge
> > of using a Unix shell to set it up otherwise its quite simple.
> > 
> > -----------------------------
> > 
> > I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about 
> > quadtone 
> > printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just 
about 
> > the 
> > easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get 
> > complete 
> > control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.
> > 
> > I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the 
details.
> > 
> > Download:
> > http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz
> > 
> > Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work 
but I 
> > figured
> > most people would have different printers and different inks.
> > 
> > Roy Harrington
> > www.harrington.com
> 
> Thanks Roy I'll download it and check it out. I guess I'm 
assuming 
> that Gimp-print will work on any Unix-based platform, I hope 
that's 
> true.

It should work -- you'll need CUPS and Gimp-print.  You'll
also have to recompile my quadraster program.   The
pstoraster shell script will have to be compared to the one
you get on Linux -- I don't know how identical the different
implementation are.

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington 
<roy@h...>" <roy@h...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
> Karafyllakis <stevek@e...>" <stevek@e...> wrote:
> 
> > > Hi Steve and anyone else interested in gimp-print,
> > > 
> > > This isn't Linux but it ought to work on any system using
> > > cups and gimp-print.  It requires at least a little knowledge
> > > of using a Unix shell to set it up otherwise its quite simple.
> > > 
> > > -----------------------------
> > > 
> > > I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about 
> > > quadtone 
> > > printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just 
> about 
> > > the 
> > > easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get 
> > > complete 
> > > control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.
> > > 
> > > I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the 
> details.
> > > 
> > > Download:
> > > http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work 
> but I 
> > > figured
> > > most people would have different printers and different inks.
> > > 
> > > Roy Harrington
> > > www.harrington.com
> > 
> > Thanks Roy I'll download it and check it out. I guess I'm 
> assuming 
> > that Gimp-print will work on any Unix-based platform, I hope 
> that's 
> > true.
> 
> It should work -- you'll need CUPS and Gimp-print.  You'll
> also have to recompile my quadraster program.   The
> pstoraster shell script will have to be compared to the one
> you get on Linux -- I don't know how identical the different
> implementation are.
> 
> Roy

Roy-

That's all over my head right now, but if I need to I'll figure it 
out.

I haven't been able to find the version of Linux that used the 
Windows/virtual PC setup, so maybe I dreamed it after all. I have 
found that all three flavors I checked ( Mandrake, Red Hat, and SuSE)
use CUPS and Gimp-print, so I think I'll move towards trying it as 
time allows, in a dual-boot set-up. I know you posted a URL to get 
the latest version of Gimp-print a few days ago, could you post it 
again? Thanks

Steve K

> 
> Roy-
> 
> That's all over my head right now, but if I need to I'll figure it 
> out.
> 
> I haven't been able to find the version of Linux that used the 
> Windows/virtual PC setup, so maybe I dreamed it after all. I 
have 
> found that all three flavors I checked ( Mandrake, Red Hat, and 
SuSE)
> use CUPS and Gimp-print, so I think I'll move towards trying it 
as 
> time allows, in a dual-boot set-up. I know you posted a URL to 
get 
> the latest version of Gimp-print a few days ago, could you post 
it 
> again? Thanks
> 
> Steve K

It wasn't me, but...   I'm setting stuff from:   
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/

But from what I see there, its mostly Mac OS X binaries.
There is source code but if you are already over your head
you surely don't want to get into compiling gp source code.

You probably should go to the three flavors you of Linux
and check it all out there.  Even so you'll have to compile
and link my code.  So I'm not too sure about your options.

Roy

Roy-

Dude, you are so the man.  An excellent write-up!

I can happily report that your filter/work-flow works with a 6 ink 1200 
(MIS FS-N) as well as your 4 ink 1160.  Not only that but the nasty 
banding I have battled since starting with quadtones and the piezo 
driver is no where to be seen.

The curves need some fine tuning but your starting points were 
startling close.

Thank you.

--
Kevin Gulstene

On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 09:42  AM, Roy Harrington 
<roy@...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis <stevek@e...>" <stevek@e...> wrote:
>> Hi all;
>>
>> Do any of the folks using Gimp-print have any news? Is it soup
> yet?
>> I'm looking for a B&W rip I can afford, and I'm seriously
>> considering installing Linux in a Windows environment so I
> can try
>> Gimp-print, does anyone have any idea if this will work?
>
> Hi Steve and anyone else interested in gimp-print,
>
> This isn't Linux but it ought to work on any system using
> cups and gimp-print.  It requires at least a little knowledge
> of using a Unix shell to set it up otherwise its quite simple.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> I finally got around to investigating some of my ideas about
> quadtone
> printing with gimp-print OS X.  I think I come up with just about
> the
> easiest solution that works with very little effort.  You get
> complete
> control of the four CMYK inks and have no extra workflow.
>
> I've packaged it all up with a ReadMe that explains the details.
>
> Download:
> http://www.harrington.com/QuadGimp.tar.gz
>
> Hope I've explained in well enough.  The Curves need work but I
> figured
> most people would have different printers and different inks.
>
> Roy Harrington
> www.harrington.com
>
>
>
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