Digital BW, The Print

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From: <kalahari69@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:30 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] B&W printing and ICC profiles


>
> It seems to me that if we had ICC profiles for inkset and paper
> combinations, we should be able to use any ICC aware application
> (such as Qimage) to see and print accurate B&W prints.  This would
> eliminate the need for special drivers, curves etc.
>
> Has anyone tried this?
>
> I am hoping to buy an ICC generation software that allows for
> generation of gray scale ICC profiles.  As soon as I find one that
> supports this feature -- unfortunately Profile Prism does not support
> this feature at this time.

iccToolbox Pro makes Rich Gray profiles. ICC colour profiles that are
converted to gray profiles by taking out the colour reference figures.
That's what I did understand of that process. I got an example from a
Colorsync list subscriber. Haven't checked it yet though. Probably CMYK
printer profiles though, so not for Qimage. Mac software.

http://www.targetcolour.com/icctools.htm

Ernst

I talked to Mike Chaney from DDI -- developer of QImage.  Here is his 
response to my inquire:

"We plan to work on the ability to profile B/W printers in Profile 
Prism and have that available in a future version.  The current 
version requires that the printer be able to produce color, so 
Profile Prism cannot be used with QuadTone inks.

As for Qimage, I'm not sure there is any special requirement for 
printing with the QuadTone inks.  I believe if you had a profile, the 
profile alone would take care of the B/W printing.

Mike"

I have already purchased QImage based on this, and am waiting for the 
appropriate upgrade to Profile Prism before I purchase that 
software.  I hope he adds this feature since Profile Prism is very 
reasonably priced software and this will make the process easy and 
predictable unlike the current solutions.  I am sick of tweaking 
curves in Photoshop (unsuccessfully I might add) if I try to change 
the paper type.

Thanks for the reference.  If I had a mac I would probably get it and 
give this a shot, but I guess i have to wait.  Meanwhile I will just 
have to keep printing on Epson Archival Matte.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst Dinkla" 
<E.Dinkla@c...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kalahari69@y...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:30 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] B&W printing and ICC profiles
> 
> 
> >
> > It seems to me that if we had ICC profiles for inkset and paper
> > combinations, we should be able to use any ICC aware application
> > (such as Qimage) to see and print accurate B&W prints.  This would
> > eliminate the need for special drivers, curves etc.
> >
> > Has anyone tried this?
> >
> > I am hoping to buy an ICC generation software that allows for
> > generation of gray scale ICC profiles.  As soon as I find one that
> > supports this feature -- unfortunately Profile Prism does not 
support
> > this feature at this time.
> 
> iccToolbox Pro makes Rich Gray profiles. ICC colour profiles that 
are
> converted to gray profiles by taking out the colour reference 
figures.
> That's what I did understand of that process. I got an example from 
a
> Colorsync list subscriber. Haven't checked it yet though. Probably 
CMYK

> printer profiles though, so not for Qimage. Mac software.
> 
> http://www.targetcolour.com/icctools.htm
> 
> Ernst