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problems with MIS cartridges

2003-02-16 by parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@biotec

I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in order to 
have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one QVM.
The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer 
driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be 
empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers that 
they can change the products.
Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product?
Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints?

Thanks for an answer.

Corrado

Re: problems with MIS cartridges

2003-02-16 by jim hayes <jimhayes@frii.com>

I can only partially help. Your problem may be due to other causes but 
here are some thoughts-

When I used a 1280 and filled my own carts with VM ink, I never had 
problems with ink running out too early. However, the chip that MIS 
sells separately to assemble onto the cart was, unlike the ones on 
Epson carts, suseptible to getting zapped in two different ways: 1) In 
handling, either through touching with my finger or under physical 
force when installing onto cart; 2) Much more common, the chip can 
lose it's "mind" if cart is inserted into printer with power on. Then 
the ink status will never again read properly for that chip. The 
solution is to touch grounded metal before handling chip, and to turn 
printer off (letting head return to right position, press off button) 
and UNPLUG. Wait one minute. Then press down on white vertical post 
near bottom front left of printhead (or an alternate method which I 
haven't tried is to turn the white gear on the back left of printer) 
and release the printhead, dragging it all the way to the left. Swap 
out cart for the MIS cart and push head back to right. The white post 
won't pop up again though until you plug in printer and turn it back 
on.

Cutting power to printer is not nessecary if installing the chips that 
come on real Epson carts, I've found.

When I bought prefilled carts from MIS, and I only bought one or two 
sets in my experience, I had a problem with one color cart which ran 
out of ink when the ink level from the chip was at about 30% left. 
Since then I just kept filling my own carts using the vacuum fill 
method. I wrote up a procedure on how to do this which is quite 
lengthy I'm afraid<g>. It is in the file section of this group as a 
pdf. It really isn't hard to learn, and after you invest in  all the 
reusable stuff to fill yourself, I calculated that I could make my own 
carts for 1/2 the cost (US) I could buy them from MIS.

MIS IS a good choice. Paul Roark has worked up a great set of curves 
and inksets, although I gather that he is off now on the next 
generation which will be offsprung from the idea of the new Epson 
Ultrachrome inks. I am not an expert in how the new generation is 
coming along as I have some current restrictions as to what ink works 
in my environment.

My impression of MIS, and this is only a personal one, is that it is 
the way to go for those that don't mind "hands-on" experimenting a 
little more, in the way of both tweaking Paul's curves to taste, maybe 
filling your own carts , having to do a couple of extra steps now and 
then, etc. Other solutions like Piezo or Epson2200/ with Imageprint 5 
have more of the work done for you. Of course one good thing to MIS is 
that you can buy just about ALL the small parts that go into their 
products: if you want to mix your own ink or build your own bulk ink 
delivery system to printer, you can. And MIS will be a little cheaper 
than other solutions. Customer support is very good.
Jim H.   

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "parrellacorrado 
<corrado_parrella@b...>" <corrado_parrella@b...> wrote:
> I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in order 
to 
> have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one 
QVM.
> The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer 
> driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be 
> empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers 
that 
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> they can change the products.
> Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product?
> Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints?
> 
> Thanks for an answer.
> 
> Corrado

Re: problems with MIS cartridges

2003-02-17 by parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@biotec

Dear Jim
thank You very much for your skilled answer, I think I will go on 
with MIS products; now i'm expecting the products back form MIS and 
some explication by them.

Best regards.

Corrado
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jim hayes 
<jimhayes@f...>" <jimhayes@f...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I can only partially help. Your problem may be due to other causes 
but 
> here are some thoughts-
> 
> When I used a 1280 and filled my own carts with VM ink, I never had 
> problems with ink running out too early. However, the chip that MIS 
> sells separately to assemble onto the cart was, unlike the ones on 
> Epson carts, suseptible to getting zapped in two different ways: 1) 
In 
> handling, either through touching with my finger or under physical 
> force when installing onto cart; 2) Much more common, the chip can 
> lose it's "mind" if cart is inserted into printer with power on. 
Then 
> the ink status will never again read properly for that chip. The 
> solution is to touch grounded metal before handling chip, and to 
turn 
> printer off (letting head return to right position, press off 
button) 
> and UNPLUG. Wait one minute. Then press down on white vertical post 
> near bottom front left of printhead (or an alternate method which I 
> haven't tried is to turn the white gear on the back left of 
printer) 
> and release the printhead, dragging it all the way to the left. 
Swap 
> out cart for the MIS cart and push head back to right. The white 
post 
> won't pop up again though until you plug in printer and turn it 
back 
> on.
> 
> Cutting power to printer is not nessecary if installing the chips 
that 
> come on real Epson carts, I've found.
> 
> When I bought prefilled carts from MIS, and I only bought one or 
two 
> sets in my experience, I had a problem with one color cart which 
ran 
> out of ink when the ink level from the chip was at about 30% left. 
> Since then I just kept filling my own carts using the vacuum fill 
> method. I wrote up a procedure on how to do this which is quite 
> lengthy I'm afraid<g>. It is in the file section of this group as a 
> pdf. It really isn't hard to learn, and after you invest in  all 
the 
> reusable stuff to fill yourself, I calculated that I could make my 
own 
> carts for 1/2 the cost (US) I could buy them from MIS.
> 
> MIS IS a good choice. Paul Roark has worked up a great set of 
curves 
> and inksets, although I gather that he is off now on the next 
> generation which will be offsprung from the idea of the new Epson 
> Ultrachrome inks. I am not an expert in how the new generation is 
> coming along as I have some current restrictions as to what ink 
works 
> in my environment.
> 
> My impression of MIS, and this is only a personal one, is that it 
is 
> the way to go for those that don't mind "hands-on" experimenting a 
> little more, in the way of both tweaking Paul's curves to taste, 
maybe 
> filling your own carts , having to do a couple of extra steps now 
and 
> then, etc. Other solutions like Piezo or Epson2200/ with Imageprint 
5 
> have more of the work done for you. Of course one good thing to MIS 
is 
> that you can buy just about ALL the small parts that go into their 
> products: if you want to mix your own ink or build your own bulk 
ink 
> delivery system to printer, you can. And MIS will be a little 
cheaper 
> than other solutions. Customer support is very good.
> Jim H.   
> 
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "parrellacorrado 
> <corrado_parrella@b...>" <corrado_parrella@b...> wrote:
> > I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in 
order 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> to 
> > have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one 
> QVM.
> > The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer 
> > driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be 
> > empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers 
> that 
> > they can change the products.
> > Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product?
> > Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints?
> > 
> > Thanks for an answer.
> > 
> > Corrado

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