problems with MIS cartridges
2003-02-16 by parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@biotec
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2003-02-16 by parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@biotec
I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in order to have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one QVM. The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers that they can change the products. Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product? Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints? Thanks for an answer. Corrado
2003-02-16 by jim hayes <jimhayes@frii.com>
I can only partially help. Your problem may be due to other causes but here are some thoughts- When I used a 1280 and filled my own carts with VM ink, I never had problems with ink running out too early. However, the chip that MIS sells separately to assemble onto the cart was, unlike the ones on Epson carts, suseptible to getting zapped in two different ways: 1) In handling, either through touching with my finger or under physical force when installing onto cart; 2) Much more common, the chip can lose it's "mind" if cart is inserted into printer with power on. Then the ink status will never again read properly for that chip. The solution is to touch grounded metal before handling chip, and to turn printer off (letting head return to right position, press off button) and UNPLUG. Wait one minute. Then press down on white vertical post near bottom front left of printhead (or an alternate method which I haven't tried is to turn the white gear on the back left of printer) and release the printhead, dragging it all the way to the left. Swap out cart for the MIS cart and push head back to right. The white post won't pop up again though until you plug in printer and turn it back on. Cutting power to printer is not nessecary if installing the chips that come on real Epson carts, I've found. When I bought prefilled carts from MIS, and I only bought one or two sets in my experience, I had a problem with one color cart which ran out of ink when the ink level from the chip was at about 30% left. Since then I just kept filling my own carts using the vacuum fill method. I wrote up a procedure on how to do this which is quite lengthy I'm afraid<g>. It is in the file section of this group as a pdf. It really isn't hard to learn, and after you invest in all the reusable stuff to fill yourself, I calculated that I could make my own carts for 1/2 the cost (US) I could buy them from MIS. MIS IS a good choice. Paul Roark has worked up a great set of curves and inksets, although I gather that he is off now on the next generation which will be offsprung from the idea of the new Epson Ultrachrome inks. I am not an expert in how the new generation is coming along as I have some current restrictions as to what ink works in my environment. My impression of MIS, and this is only a personal one, is that it is the way to go for those that don't mind "hands-on" experimenting a little more, in the way of both tweaking Paul's curves to taste, maybe filling your own carts , having to do a couple of extra steps now and then, etc. Other solutions like Piezo or Epson2200/ with Imageprint 5 have more of the work done for you. Of course one good thing to MIS is that you can buy just about ALL the small parts that go into their products: if you want to mix your own ink or build your own bulk ink delivery system to printer, you can. And MIS will be a little cheaper than other solutions. Customer support is very good. Jim H. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@b...>" <corrado_parrella@b...> wrote: > I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in order to > have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one QVM. > The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer > driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be > empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers that
> they can change the products. > Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product? > Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints? > > Thanks for an answer. > > Corrado
2003-02-17 by parrellacorrado <corrado_parrella@biotec
Dear Jim thank You very much for your skilled answer, I think I will go on with MIS products; now i'm expecting the products back form MIS and some explication by them. Best regards. Corrado --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jim hayes <jimhayes@f...>" <jimhayes@f...> wrote: > > > I can only partially help. Your problem may be due to other causes but > here are some thoughts- > > When I used a 1280 and filled my own carts with VM ink, I never had > problems with ink running out too early. However, the chip that MIS > sells separately to assemble onto the cart was, unlike the ones on > Epson carts, suseptible to getting zapped in two different ways: 1) In > handling, either through touching with my finger or under physical > force when installing onto cart; 2) Much more common, the chip can > lose it's "mind" if cart is inserted into printer with power on. Then > the ink status will never again read properly for that chip. The > solution is to touch grounded metal before handling chip, and to turn > printer off (letting head return to right position, press off button) > and UNPLUG. Wait one minute. Then press down on white vertical post > near bottom front left of printhead (or an alternate method which I > haven't tried is to turn the white gear on the back left of printer) > and release the printhead, dragging it all the way to the left. Swap > out cart for the MIS cart and push head back to right. The white post > won't pop up again though until you plug in printer and turn it back > on. > > Cutting power to printer is not nessecary if installing the chips that > come on real Epson carts, I've found. > > When I bought prefilled carts from MIS, and I only bought one or two > sets in my experience, I had a problem with one color cart which ran > out of ink when the ink level from the chip was at about 30% left. > Since then I just kept filling my own carts using the vacuum fill > method. I wrote up a procedure on how to do this which is quite > lengthy I'm afraid<g>. It is in the file section of this group as a > pdf. It really isn't hard to learn, and after you invest in all the > reusable stuff to fill yourself, I calculated that I could make my own > carts for 1/2 the cost (US) I could buy them from MIS. > > MIS IS a good choice. Paul Roark has worked up a great set of curves > and inksets, although I gather that he is off now on the next > generation which will be offsprung from the idea of the new Epson > Ultrachrome inks. I am not an expert in how the new generation is > coming along as I have some current restrictions as to what ink works > in my environment. > > My impression of MIS, and this is only a personal one, is that it is > the way to go for those that don't mind "hands-on" experimenting a > little more, in the way of both tweaking Paul's curves to taste, maybe > filling your own carts , having to do a couple of extra steps now and > then, etc. Other solutions like Piezo or Epson2200/ with Imageprint 5 > have more of the work done for you. Of course one good thing to MIS is > that you can buy just about ALL the small parts that go into their > products: if you want to mix your own ink or build your own bulk ink > delivery system to printer, you can. And MIS will be a little cheaper > than other solutions. Customer support is very good. > Jim H. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "parrellacorrado > <corrado_parrella@b...>" <corrado_parrella@b...> wrote: > > I tried to employ MIS cartridges on my 1290 EPSON printer in order
> to > > have a quality B/N printout. I received two sets one QFS and one > QVM. > > The QFS one has the black cartridge not recognized by the printer > > driver, the QVM one after five printouts (quiet good) seems to be > > empty even if the level displayed is at 75%! MIS e-mailed anwers > that > > they can change the products. > > Does anybody have had such experiences with MIS product? > > Is MIS product a good choice for B/W quality prints? > > > > Thanks for an answer. > > > > Corrado