Digital BW, The Print

Is there a consensus as to whether the 1290 driver and VM curves work well
with the 1280 printer and MIS VM inkset?

I have always heard that the 1280 and 1290 are mechanically identical
(except that the 1280 uses the U.S. plug/voltage and the 1290 the European
standard).

In writing the curves, the 1290 printer and curves performed very well.  So,
I've felt that driver and those curves might be further options that are
available to 1280 owners.

(I use the 7000 driver with my 7500.  All it took was going to the Epson
download site and installing the driver.  The driver installed, found the
appropriate printer, and didn't affect the existing driver.  The Status
Monitor doesn't work, but that is not significant.  I check the ink level
occasionally with the 7500 driver.)

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

If it's the same printer, then why even change the driver?  Unless someone 
else has already tried this and failed, tonight I'm going to try the 1290 
curves and settings on my 1280.  The driver settings are "No Color 
Adjustment" for the 1290 curves, so I can't see why it shouldn't work.

- Keith

I printed a set of images using the 1290 curves on the 1280. I, however, 
only printed in neutral and neutral cold since that's I would use 99.9% 
of the time. I then downloaded the 1290 driver and installed it and 
printed the same images. I saw no difference at least with the neutral 
and netural cold.

Truman

Paul Roark wrote:

>Is there a consensus as to whether the 1290 driver and VM curves work well
>with the 1280 printer and MIS VM inkset?
>
>I have always heard that the 1280 and 1290 are mechanically identical
>(except that the 1280 uses the U.S. plug/voltage and the 1290 the European
>standard).
>
>In writing the curves, the 1290 printer and curves performed very well.  So,
>I've felt that driver and those curves might be further options that are
>available to 1280 owners.
>
>(I use the 7000 driver with my 7500.  All it took was going to the Epson
>download site and installing the driver.  The driver installed, found the
>appropriate printer, and didn't affect the existing driver.  The Status
>Monitor doesn't work, but that is not significant.  I check the ink level
>occasionally with the 7500 driver.)
>
>Paul
>http://www.PaulRoark.com
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I found with SOME images, using the 1290 driver and 1290 curves gave a 
bit smoother image than if I use the 1270 driver and curves.. Others had 
found better results, again in some - not all - cases with the 1290 
driver and curves than with the 1280 driver and curves. (My own tests 
with the 1280 back then - currently I use it for Lyson inksets, but that 
coud change to the MIS UC GP set -  showed the 1290 driver seemed better 
in some cases.)

So, I've got both drivers/printers installed.. If I find an image does 
not work as well as I would like on the 1270 driver with my curves then 
I can go to the 1290 driver in the print dialog and use those curves.. 
(I've also got a 1290 driver installed for the 1280)

That said: I find more difference, strangely (perhaps just my own 
sensitivity to blue/cyan), in the way the two drvers  print the VM sets 
than the VM-S set...


Keith

 

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AFAIK, the only difference is in the edge to edge printing, the
hard- and software in Europe is A3/A4 size directed and the other
one towasrds imperial sizes.

Ernst

I gave it a try last night: I used the 1290 curves, with the 1280 driver 
(AdobeRGB, Same-as-source, No Color Adjustment).  No joy.

For the VM-1290-C1 and VM-1290-NC1 curves, the output is not linear.  The 
step wedge is monotonically increasing, but not evenly.  In the linear 
gradient, there are some reversals and color shifts.

No dots, though!

- Keith

The 870 that I wrote curves on was also up there with the best drivers in
terms of the output quality.

Any chance the 1270 driver and 870/1270 curves would work on the 1280?

The more options, the better.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:48 PM
To: DigitalB&WPrint
Subject: [Digital BW] Using 1290 Driver for 1280 & MIS VM


Is there a consensus as to whether the 1290 driver and VM curves work well
with the 1280 printer and MIS VM inkset?

I have always heard that the 1280 and 1290 are mechanically identical
(except that the 1280 uses the U.S. plug/voltage and the 1290 the European
standard).

In writing the curves, the 1290 printer and curves performed very well.  So,
I've felt that driver and those curves might be further options that are
available to 1280 owners.

(I use the 7000 driver with my 7500.  All it took was going to the Epson
download site and installing the driver.  The driver installed, found the
appropriate printer, and didn't affect the existing driver.  The Status
Monitor doesn't work, but that is not significant.  I check the ink level
occasionally with the 7500 driver.)

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com



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Paul Roark wrote:

>The 870 that I wrote curves on was also up there with the best drivers in
>terms of the output quality.
>
>Any chance the 1270 driver and 870/1270 curves would work on the 1280?
>
>The more options, the better.
>
>Paul
>http://www.PaulRoark.com
>  
>
Sure will...

You just lose 2880 and borderless printing options.. No biggee..

Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:

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"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"

 




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DI don't mean to leave the 2000P people who ponied up the cash for one 
disillusioned.. But, you can even use the 2000P driver on the 12x0 
printers...

Is there a set of 2000P curves?


Keith

 

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guys"

 

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Actually, I hadn't thought of this before..

But, the 1290/1280/1270 drivers and curves should also work on a 2000P..

Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
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Keith Douglas wrote:

>I gave it a try last night: I used the 1290 curves, with the 1280 driver 
>(AdobeRGB, Same-as-source, No Color Adjustment).  No joy.
>
>For the VM-1290-C1 and VM-1290-NC1 curves, the output is not linear.  The 
>step wedge is monotonically increasing, but not evenly.  In the linear 
>gradient, there are some reversals and color shifts.
>
>No dots, though!
>
>- Keith
>
>  
>
Why not use the 1290 driver AND the 1290 curves?
Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:

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I made a set of 2000P curves for the PC.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:40 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Using *1270* Driver for 1280 & MIS VM


DI don't mean to leave the 2000P people who ponied up the cash for one
disillusioned.. But, you can even use the 2000P driver on the 12x0
printers...

Is there a set of 2000P curves?


Keith



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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
Publications), at:

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guys"



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I've been using the 1270 curves and the 1270 driver on my 1280 with 
great success. Much better than the 1280 curves/driver combination. 

     -Tony-

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> The 870 that I wrote curves on was also up there with the best 
drivers in
> terms of the output quality.
> 
> Any chance the 1270 driver and 870/1270 curves would work on the 
1280?

> 
> The more options, the better.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> _____________________________________________