Digital BW, The Print

I've been using  Roy Harrington's QuadToneRIP 
(http://www.harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html) with my Epson 2200 for the 
past few days and I'm very impressed with both the quality of the 
prints obtainable with this combo and the user friendly workflow that 
the QuadToneRIP provides.  I modified Roy's 2200 "starter" curve for 
neutral B&W and came up with a draft curve that produces very nice B&W 
prints on EAM and Eclipse Satine that are absolutely free of 
metamerism.  I would like to hear from and share information with other 
Epson 2200/Mac users who are using or want to experiment with the 
QuadTone RIP.

I'm going to install this and try it out tonight.  Anything special I 
should know re: installation or use? I ask because I'm not at all 
familiar with Gimp Print, and want to make sure I put all the pieces 
together correctly so I can properly evaluate the RIP.  I'm running 
OS 10.2.4 on a mac G4 w. an Epson 2200.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:26  AM, chipcarterdc wrote:

> I'm going to install this and try it out tonight.  Anything special I
> should know re: installation or use? I ask because I'm not at all
> familiar with Gimp Print, and want to make sure I put all the pieces
> together correctly so I can properly evaluate the RIP.  I'm running
> OS 10.2.4 on a mac G4 w. an Epson 2200.
>
There was a problem with the installation package that Roy was going to 
fix, but don't know if this has been done yet.  He suggested a fix for 
the installation problem in the following post and it worked for me.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/27553
You could check with Roy to see if this fix is still necessary for the 
current installation package.  He was also going to include my draft 
neutral curve and workflow in the revised installation package, but I 
don't know if this is ready yet.  I'll email the curve and workflow to 
you directly in the meantime.

Tell us more.  Are you using the workflow described in the URL
you provided?   I assume you're using the 2200-UCink.   Are you
running this with GIMP or Photoshop or what?
 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:
> I've been using  Roy Harrington's QuadToneRIP 
> (http://www.harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html) with my Epson 2200 for 
the 
> past few days and I'm very impressed with both the quality of the 
> prints obtainable with this combo and the user friendly workflow 
that 
> the QuadToneRIP provides.  I modified Roy's 2200 "starter" curve 
for 
> neutral B&W and came up with a draft curve that produces very nice 
B&W 
> prints on EAM and Eclipse Satine that are absolutely free of 
> metamerism.  I would like to hear from and share information with 
other 
> Epson 2200/Mac users who are using or want to experiment with the 
> QuadTone RIP.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 12:52  PM, Peter Nelson wrote:

>
> Tell us more.  Are you using the workflow described in the URL
> you provided?   I assume you're using the 2200-UCink.   Are you
> running this with GIMP or Photoshop or what?
The QuadToneRIP uses the latest versions of Gimp-Print and Ghostscript 
which must be installed first.  I do all of my printing through 
Photoshop to the Gimp-Print/QuadToneRIP.  The curves are edited in 
Photoshop (CMYK psd files) and then saved as raw files with a .quad 
extension for installation into the driver.  Curve editing simply 
involves adjusting the curves for C, M, and K levels, leaving Y set to 
zero to eliminate metamerism, to get a neutral ramp in a 21 step 
greyscale print.  I modified Roy's workflow slightly for the 2200 and 
use the following driver settings when printing greyscale images to 
either EAM or Eclipse Satine using the Epson UC inks (matte black ink 
installed):

Printer Features:
   Basic Settings:
    Media Type: Matte Paper
    Resolution: 1440x1440 Highest quality
    Image Type: Photograph
    Dither Algorithm: Adaptive Hybrid
    Ink Type: Seven Color Photo
   Expert Settings2:
    Output Mode: Grayscale & Quadtone RIP
    Quadtone RIP Curves: 2200-neutral
    Brightness, Contrast, and Gamma all set to 1
   Expert Settings3:
    Density: 0.9
    Saturation, C, M, and Y all set to 1

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter 
Nelson" <peter@s...> wrote:
> 
> Tell us more.  Are you using the workflow described in the URL
> you provided?   I assume you're using the 2200-UCink.   Are 
you
> running this with GIMP or Photoshop or what?
>  
> 

I've got a lot of irons in the fire right this second. I'll have
the new version later today.  It's best to wait for it.

Roy

Roy: would it be possible for you to post a message here so we know 
when the new version is available?  I just downloaded it this 
morning, but I'm happy to wait for the new version.

Thanks for your work, too.

> 
> I've got a lot of irons in the fire right this second. I'll have
> the new version later today.  It's best to wait for it.
> 
> Roy

I guess those of us who use a PC will have to stand on the sidelines!?

Peter Palmieri
   "Peter 
  Nelson" wrote:
  > 
  > Tell us more.  Are you using the workflow described in the URL
  > you provided?   I assume you're using the 2200-UCink.   Are 
  you
  > running this with GIMP or Photoshop or what?
  >  
  > 

  I've got a lot of irons in the fire right this second. I'll have
  the new version later today.  It's best to wait for it.

  Roy



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Buy a mac...you'll never switch back!

Robert

On 3/11/03 2:33 PM, "Peter Palmieri" <pcpalmieri@...> wrote:

> I guess those of us who use a PC will have to stand on the sidelines!?
> 
> Peter Palmieri
>  "Peter 
> Nelson" wrote:
>> 
>> Tell us more.  Are you using the workflow described in the URL
>> you provided?   I assume you're using the 2200-UCink.   Are
> you
>> running this with GIMP or Photoshop or what?
>>  
>> 
> 
> I've got a lot of irons in the fire right this second. I'll have
> the new version later today.  It's best to wait for it.
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Palmieri" <pcpalmieri@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 + QuadToneRIP


> I guess those of us who use a PC will have to stand on the
sidelines!?
>
> Peter Palmieri

Make a dual boot machine of it. Best way is to get another HD and
put a Linux version on it. Or another PC. For driving a printer
you do not need the latest model either and some Linux
distributions occupy little space on the HD. Not to mention the
bootable CD Linux versions. That will make it difficult to add
the driver to but nothing stops Roy it seems.

Ernst

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst 
Dinkla" <E.Dinkla@c...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Palmieri" <pcpalmieri@c...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 + QuadToneRIP
> 
> 
> > I guess those of us who use a PC will have to stand on the
> sidelines!?
> >
> > Peter Palmieri
> 
> Make a dual boot machine of it. Best way is to get another HD 
and
> put a Linux version on it. Or another PC. For driving a printer
> you do not need the latest model either and some Linux
> distributions occupy little space on the HD. Not to mention the
> bootable CD Linux versions. That will make it difficult to add
> the driver to but nothing stops Roy it seems.
> 
> Ernst

Ernst, I'm just a guy that wanted to get a new larger printer and
run it from Mac OS X.  All the off-the-shelf ways had limitations
and/or high cost.  I found a flexible solution for free so I figured
on sharing it.  The fact that it could work on Linux or that it
could help the 2200 where just bonuses.

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: "Roy Harrington" <roy@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 + QuadToneRIP


> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ernst
> Dinkla" <E.Dinkla@c...> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Palmieri" <pcpalmieri@c...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 + QuadToneRIP
> >
> >
> > > I guess those of us who use a PC will have to stand on the
> > sidelines!?
> > >
> > > Peter Palmieri
> >
> > Make a dual boot machine of it. Best way is to get another HD
> and
> > put a Linux version on it. Or another PC. For driving a
printer
> > you do not need the latest model either and some Linux
> > distributions occupy little space on the HD. Not to mention
the
> > bootable CD Linux versions. That will make it difficult to
add
> > the driver to but nothing stops Roy it seems.
> >
> > Ernst
>
> Ernst, I'm just a guy that wanted to get a new larger printer
and
> run it from Mac OS X.  All the off-the-shelf ways had
limitations
> and/or high cost.  I found a flexible solution for free so I
figured
> on sharing it.  The fact that it could work on Linux or that it
> could help the 2200 where just bonuses.
>
> Roy

Roy, it was a compliment, at least I thought it would be
considered a compliment.
It was not a request to do this job as well but more an
expression of admiration for the work done already.

Ernst