Digital BW, The Print

Hi,  just found this forum...

I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many references to this printer here, and am wondering why?  It seems like an ideal candidate: non-chipped, 6 inks.  I have no experience with any of the monochrome systems, but have been using my 1270 for printing Photoshop duotone files for a while, and I'm ready to get into a dedicated printer.

At this point, I'm leaning toward the MIS VM inks, in a CFS setup.  The IJC/OPM seems appealing, but it's not available for either of my printers.

Anyway, any experiences/advice/warnings about using the 1200?

Thanks,
BH

I started with a 720, and am now using a 1200 with VM inks using 
self-filled carts. I've had some fussy clogs, but I'm generally quite 
happy with it.

Matt

> Hi,  just found this forum...
> 
> I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many references to this printer here, and am wondering why?  It seems like an ideal candidate: non-chipped, 6 inks.  I have no experience with any of the monochrome systems, but 
have been using my 1270 for printing Photoshop duotone files for a while, and I'm ready to get into a dedicated printer.
> 
> At this point, I'm leaning toward the MIS VM inks, in a CFS setup.  The IJC/OPM seems appealing, but it's not available for either of my printers.
> 
> Anyway, any experiences/advice/warnings about using the 1200?
> 
> Thanks,
> BH
> 
>
--
Matt Haber
dance, portrait and fashion photography
http://www.matthaber.com

I use a 1200 with MIS inks and a CIS - works great. Only thing to look for is how hard the 1200 was used before you got it. Keep the printer clean and the metal rod inside slightly lubricated and your good to go.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bu88ahu88a 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:56 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 1200+Monochrome


  Hi,  just found this forum...

  I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many references to this printer here, and am wondering why?  It seems like an ideal candidate: non-chipped, 6 inks.  I have no experience with any of the monochrome systems, but have been using my 1270 for printing Photoshop duotone files for a while, and I'm ready to get into a dedicated printer.

  At this point, I'm leaning toward the MIS VM inks, in a CFS setup.  The IJC/OPM seems appealing, but it's not available for either of my printers.

  Anyway, any experiences/advice/warnings about using the 1200?

  Thanks,
  BH


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bu88ahu88a"
<bu88ahu88a@y...> wrote:

BH, I have been using a 1200 with MIS VM inks for 1 year no and love
it. Never had a major prolem with any part of it. Once in awhile a
slight clog in the black cart, but 1 or 2 cleaning cycles takes care
of it.

Vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com




> Hi,  just found this forum...
> 
> I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been researching
quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many references to this
printer here, and am wondering why?  It seems like an ideal candidate:
non-chipped, 6 inks.  I have no experience with any of the monochrome
systems, but have been using my 1270 for printing Photoshop duotone
files for a while, and I'm ready to get into a dedicated printer.
> 
> At this point, I'm leaning toward the MIS VM inks, in a CFS setup. 
The IJC/OPM seems appealing, but it's not available for either of my
printers.

> 
> Anyway, any experiences/advice/warnings about using the 1200?
> 
> Thanks,
> BH

Let me add that I have used a 1200 and the MIS-VM inks in their carts 
since early October and have not yet had any problems.  

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Haber" 
<matt@m...> wrote:
> I started with a 720, and am now using a 1200 with VM inks using 
> self-filled carts. I've had some fussy clogs, but I'm generally 
quite 
> happy with it.
> 
> Matt
> 
> > Hi,  just found this forum...
> > 
> > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been 
researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many 
references to this printer here, and am wondering why?  It seems like 
an ideal candidate: non-chipped, 6 inks.  I have no experience with 
any of the monochrome systems, but 
> have been using my 1270 for printing Photoshop duotone files for a 
while, and I'm ready to get into a dedicated printer.
> > 
> > At this point, I'm leaning toward the MIS VM inks, in a CFS 
setup.  The IJC/OPM seems appealing, but it's not available for 
either of my printers.

> > 
> > Anyway, any experiences/advice/warnings about using the 1200?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > BH
> > 
> >
> --
> Matt Haber
> dance, portrait and fashion photography
> http://www.matthaber.com

Thanks for the replies, looks like I'm good to go!

BH

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "digiphotogav"
<digiphotogav@c...> wrote:
> I use a 1200 with MIS inks and a CIS - works great. Only thing to
look for is how hard the 1200 was used before you got it. Keep the
printer clean and the metal rod inside slightly lubricated and your
good to go.

The 1200 is many years out of production!

> I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many references to this printer here, and am wondering why?y

So what. I consistently works well with no problems. Get beautiful 
prints.

Vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> The 1200 is many years out of production!
> 
> > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and have been 
researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I don't see many 
references to this printer here, and am wondering why?y

1200 users of the world unite!!!

--- Vincent Orlando <orlandovl@...> wrote:
> 
> So what. I consistently works well with no problems.
> Get beautiful 
> prints.
> 
> Vinny
> http://www.wulfsden.com
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> Jerry Olson 
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > The 1200 is many years out of production!
> > 
> > > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and
> have been 
> researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I
> don't see many 
> references to this printer here, and am wondering
> why?y
> 
> 


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That wasn't the question. He wanted to know how come the 1200 isn't
mentioned much. It's an old printer. Not 
many people still have them. 

Jer

> > So what. I consistently works well with no problems.
> > Get beautiful
> > prints.
> >
> > Vinny
> > http://www.wulfsden.com
> 
> > > > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and
> > have been
> > researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I
> > don't see many
> > references to this printer here, and am wondering
> > why?y
>

Yes, I was just looking for any major warnings.  Since it was free, I figure it will be a good way to get started with hextone & CFS, which can be (partially) moved to a new printer when necessary.  

One downside to the printer seems to be the lack of paper settings in the driver (no Matte Heavyweight, Enhanced Matte, and so on).  On that note, does anyone know, or know where to find, what the paper type selection actually does?  I assume if "Color Controls" is selected under color management, that it determines which profile gets used by the driver.  If "No Color Adjustment" is used, does the paper setting affect anything?  Dot gain? 

Thanks for all the replies!
BH

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:

> That wasn't the question. He wanted to know how come the 1200 isn't
> mentioned much. It's an old printer. Not 
> many people still have them. 
> 
> Jer
> 
> > > So what. I consistently works well with no problems.
> > > Get beautiful
> > > prints.
> > >
> > > Vinny
> > > http://www.wulfsden.com
> > 
> > > > > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer, and
> > > have been
> > > researching quadtone/hextone options for it.  I
> > > don't see many
> > > references to this printer here, and am wondering
> > > why?y
> >

Howdy

If you go to MIS web site there is a link to all the
instructions to print with VM. There is a pretty
specific workflow developed by Paul Roark that's real
easy as long as you follow step by step. It will
explain paper settings, color control settings and all
that. I would try a set of prefilled cartridges before
comitting to a CIS system. That way you can waste a
bunch of ink messing around and getting the hang if
things. Get some Epson Enhanced Matte to start with
and then experiment with some other papers. I have
found with most papers use the same paper settings for
EEM. Some tweeks here and there perhaps, but the basic
Raork flow works pretty well across a range of paper.
Experiment and have fun, I know I am with my 1200.

Right On

John E

--- bu88ahu88a <bu88ahu88a@...> wrote:
> Yes, I was just looking for any major warnings. 
> Since it was free, I figure it will be a good way to
> get started with hextone & CFS, which can be
> (partially) moved to a new printer when necessary.  
> 
> One downside to the printer seems to be the lack of
> paper settings in the driver (no Matte Heavyweight,
> Enhanced Matte, and so on).  On that note, does
> anyone know, or know where to find, what the paper
> type selection actually does?  I assume if "Color
> Controls" is selected under color management, that
> it determines which profile gets used by the driver.
>  If "No Color Adjustment" is used, does the paper
> setting affect anything?  Dot gain? 
> 
> Thanks for all the replies!
> BH
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > That wasn't the question. He wanted to know how
> come the 1200 isn't
> > mentioned much. It's an old printer. Not 
> > many people still have them. 
> > 
> > Jer
> > 
> > > > So what. I consistently works well with no
> problems.
> > > > Get beautiful
> > > > prints.
> > > >
> > > > Vinny
> > > > http://www.wulfsden.com
> > > 
> > > > > > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer,
> and
> > > > have been
> > > > researching quadtone/hextone options for it. 
> I
> > > > don't see many
> > > > references to this printer here, and am
> wondering
> > > > why?y
> > >
> 
> 


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I have found Pauls workflow to be very good with my 1200. When
changing to Bright Cube Satine paper which I like very much, I used
Jerry Olsens suggestion "adj. layer-levels-middle slider minus 15
units" prints perfect almost exactly like EHM, EEM

Vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, john eckenrode
<ejohn182002@y...> wrote:

> Howdy
> 
> If you go to MIS web site there is a link to all the
> instructions to print with VM. There is a pretty
> specific workflow developed by Paul Roark that's real
> easy as long as you follow step by step. It will
> explain paper settings, color control settings and all
> that. I would try a set of prefilled cartridges before
> comitting to a CIS system. That way you can waste a
> bunch of ink messing around and getting the hang if
> things. Get some Epson Enhanced Matte to start with
> and then experiment with some other papers. I have
> found with most papers use the same paper settings for
> EEM. Some tweeks here and there perhaps, but the basic
> Raork flow works pretty well across a range of paper.
> Experiment and have fun, I know I am with my 1200.
> 
> Right On
> 
> John E
> 
> --- bu88ahu88a <bu88ahu88a@y...> wrote:
> > Yes, I was just looking for any major warnings. 
> > Since it was free, I figure it will be a good way to
> > get started with hextone & CFS, which can be
> > (partially) moved to a new printer when necessary.  
> > 
> > One downside to the printer seems to be the lack of
> > paper settings in the driver (no Matte Heavyweight,
> > Enhanced Matte, and so on).  On that note, does
> > anyone know, or know where to find, what the paper
> > type selection actually does?  I assume if "Color
> > Controls" is selected under color management, that
> > it determines which profile gets used by the driver.
> >  If "No Color Adjustment" is used, does the paper
> > setting affect anything?  Dot gain? 
> > 
> > Thanks for all the replies!
> > BH
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > That wasn't the question. He wanted to know how
> > come the 1200 isn't
> > > mentioned much. It's an old printer. Not 
> > > many people still have them. 
> > > 
> > > Jer
> > > 
> > > > > So what. I consistently works well with no
> > problems.
> > > > > Get beautiful
> > > > > prints.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vinny
> > > > > http://www.wulfsden.com
> > > > 
> > > > > > > I recently aquired an Epson 1200 printer,
> > and
> > > > > have been
> > > > > researching quadtone/hextone options for it. 
> > I
> > > > > don't see many
> > > > > references to this printer here, and am
> > wondering
> > > > > why?y
> > > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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