Digital BW, The Print

Hey everyone!
I just joined this group and while your posts dont make alot of 
sennse today, they might in a feew weeks after I research and learn 
here.
 . I have a 10D and an epson 2200. All i want to do is print BW 
photos that have more of a deep chocolate color/ cream  as opposed to 
black and white.
I have a photoshop 5.5, adobe elements and paintshop pro 7.0.
this is my goal for the week! 
I know all of your previous posts will make sense to me in a matter 
of time!
any advice or direction would be appreciated!
Sincerely, MAryAnn

At 02:39 PM 5/12/03 +0000, you wrote:
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>  . I have a 10D and an epson 2200. All i want to do is print BW
>photos that have more of a deep chocolate color/ cream  as opposed to
>black and white....this is my goal for the week!
<snip>


ROTFLOL, Sounds like quite a week-full. That's been the goal of some of the 
people on this list for years. Good Luck.



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On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 08:39  AM, maryann151515 wrote:
>
>  . I have a 10D and an epson 2200. All i want to do is print BW
> photos that have more of a deep chocolate color/ cream  as opposed to
> black and white.
> I have a photoshop 5.5, adobe elements and paintshop pro 7.0.
> this is my goal for the week!

That's funny.

> I know all of your previous posts will make sense to me in a matter
> of time!
> any advice or direction would be appreciated!

Try not to be too disappointed after your first week.  I've only been 
'learning' this stuff for 8 years. Buy a few good books, read them, 
search the web for tutorials, creative pro is a great site for one.. 
upgrade to Photoshop full version, get the best app to go with your 
capture and output tools. The deep chocolate color you crave is not 
easy to obtain from the 2200 without color crossover and some 
metamerism showing up a bit, even with the ultrachromes. That tone is 
one of the hardest to obtain. I'm hoping for a chocolate piezo set 
myself.

Carolyn

On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 12:15  PM, Carolyn Frayn wrote:
> The deep chocolate color you crave is not
> easy to obtain from the 2200 without color crossover and some
> metamerism showing up a bit, even with the ultrachromes. That tone is
> one of the hardest to obtain. I'm hoping for a chocolate piezo set
> myself.

IJC might be a good tool for creating a "chocolate" profile for the 
2200.  The three-quarter tones in the sepia profile I made tend towards 
a chocolate hue, but of course the overall print appearance is 
definitely sepia.

>>
>> one of the hardest to obtain. I'm hoping for a chocolate piezo set
>> myself.
>
> IJC might be a good tool for creating a "chocolate" profile for the
> 2200.  The three-quarter tones in the sepia profile I made tend towards
> a chocolate hue, but of course the overall print appearance is
> definitely sepia.
>

Yes Carl, your sepia profile is definitely sepia. and lovely... I'm 
afraid with the portraits I've been trying to print lately I'm getting 
an objectionable pattern or dither, not quite that of the Black , they 
worked so very well with the soft abstract prints for me though.

I've gotten a very beautiful chocolate on rag paper with the epson 
driver, like chocolate velvet... but there is too much magenta rearing 
it's head in some transition areas, and has a twist to green in the 
mid's when the sun shines. I'm hoping to try a custom profile, to use 
with the epson driver.

Carolyn