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RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on se lection?

RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on se lection?

2003-05-12 by Alessandro Pardi

Agreed, the same approach works also for artifacts due to sharpening. If I
want to print at 13x19", I set the magnification in Photoshop so that it's
the same as the print size (set image size to the final print and then
change magnification until inches on the ruler you see on your screen are,
well, inches), and then start working with sharpening tools. Taking a look
at 100% magnification will make your hair raise, as the image will look
awful, but this won't show on the print. Does anyone else use this
procedure? I always heard about sharpening at 100%...
BTW, the difference with spotting is that you may want to spot at 100% just
to get rid of it once and for all, rather than have to go through this
boring step again if you want to print larger someday (this isn't the case
with sharpening, as you *have* to sharpen from scratch if you change print
size in order to obtain the best results).
 
Alessandro Pardi
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jason DeFontes [mailto:jason@...]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 18:33
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on
selection?


I used to do that, but now I usually print a proof at the final size
first, then circle all the spots on the proof where I can actually see
the dust in the final print, and go back and fix only those spots. I
found I was cleaning up a lot of stuff that didn't make a difference.

-Jason

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Borkowski [mailto:h1@...] 
> 
> I've found nothing better than doing it manually using the 
> clone stamp and healing brush tools. I call it "mowing the 
> lawn". Viewing the image at 100% and filling the screen, i 
> use keyboard shortcuts [(ctrl) page up/down] to 
> systematically go through the entire image starting at the 
> top left corner, moving left to right / top to bottom. 
> ensures you don't miss anything and maximal control in terms 
> of not overdoing (or softening) the image.
> 
> provided you start out with a good clean scan, the process is 
> not too bad. takes me usually 1 - 1.5 hours per image. late 
> at night, with some music, i find it cathartic ;-)
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
>  Jeff




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RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on se lection?

2003-05-12 by Jeff Borkowski

absolutely.

i should have mentioned i'm often printing large (30x40) and have been
amazed at what shows up at that size that does not in (smaller) proofs.

as such, i invest the time upfront to spot the images so that they're as
perfect as they can be at any size.
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Alessandro Pardi [mailto:alessandro.pardi@...]
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 12:42 PM
  To: 'DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com'
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on se
lection?


  Agreed, the same approach works also for artifacts due to sharpening. If I
  want to print at 13x19", I set the magnification in Photoshop so that it's
  the same as the print size (set image size to the final print and then
  change magnification until inches on the ruler you see on your screen are,
  well, inches), and then start working with sharpening tools. Taking a look
  at 100% magnification will make your hair raise, as the image will look
  awful, but this won't show on the print. Does anyone else use this
  procedure? I always heard about sharpening at 100%...
  BTW, the difference with spotting is that you may want to spot at 100%
just
  to get rid of it once and for all, rather than have to go through this
  boring step again if you want to print larger someday (this isn't the case
  with sharpening, as you *have* to sharpen from scratch if you change print
  size in order to obtain the best results).

  Alessandro Pardi

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jason DeFontes [mailto:jason@...]
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 18:33
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on
  selection?


  I used to do that, but now I usually print a proof at the final size
  first, then circle all the spots on the proof where I can actually see
  the dust in the final print, and go back and fix only those spots. I
  found I was cleaning up a lot of stuff that didn't make a difference.

  -Jason

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Jeff Borkowski [mailto:h1@...]
  >
  > I've found nothing better than doing it manually using the
  > clone stamp and healing brush tools. I call it "mowing the
  > lawn". Viewing the image at 100% and filling the screen, i
  > use keyboard shortcuts [(ctrl) page up/down] to
  > systematically go through the entire image starting at the
  > top left corner, moving left to right / top to bottom.
  > ensures you don't miss anything and maximal control in terms
  > of not overdoing (or softening) the image.
  >
  > provided you start out with a good clean scan, the process is
  > not too bad. takes me usually 1 - 1.5 hours per image. late
  > at night, with some music, i find it cathartic ;-)
  >
  > Hope this helps!
  >
  >  Jeff




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RE: [Digital BW] Plugin or procedure for dust removal based on selection?

2003-05-12 by Daniel Staver

I found the solution:

I load the selection and use the Patch tool in 'Source' mode and drag
the selection a little bit away from the dust. Seems to work extremely
well in most cases. I haven't payed much attention to the patch tool
until now... 

Both with the patch tool and the healing brush tool I find that
sometimes the grain structure is screwed up when I use them. In those
cases the clone stamp with a hard edged brush works better.

In any case, I like to get rid of all the dust, whether it's visible in
the final print size or not. I often go back later and make
enlargements, so it's nice to know it's done once and for all.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

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