Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone been able to send a printer back to Epson and have it 
completely refurbished, not just repaired? Someone just gave me a 
1270 with a terminal banding problem and lots of mileage, anf the 
local Epson guys are total meatheads-I don't trust them, I would 
much rather get a complete refurb if that is possible.

Steve Karafyllakis

http://www.stevekphoto.com

Steve:

I have two Epson refurbs (1280 & 890) One was an advance replacement
for my 1280 with bent cart chip reading pins. The 890 was just bought
outright from Epson. Both appear to be new printers that had some
problem (or perceived problem) and were swapped out. I suspect they
fixed my original almost new 1280 and sold it as a refub. 

So I don't think they refurbish used printers, just fix the easily
reparied warranty replacements and sell as refurbs. Makes sense as you
can't afford to fix much on an Epson before it costs more than to
build a new one. 

Looking at it another way, for $399 they can "refurb" your old 1270
and upgrade it to a 1280 and you won't have to even bother sending the
1270 back to them. 

If you can live with 8 1/2 x 11, they have refurb 890's for $185 again
but no longer have the $100 rebate. That's how I bought my 890 for
$85, not too much more than the cost of the included new ink carts.

Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:

> Has anyone been able to send a printer back to Epson and have it 
> completely refurbished, not just repaired? Someone just gave me a 
> 1270 with a terminal banding problem and lots of mileage, anf the 
> local Epson guys are total meatheads-I don't trust them, I would 
> much rather get a complete refurb if that is possible.
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> http://www.stevekphoto.com

My 1270 also has bent cart chip reading pins, from when I inserted a 
new cartridge and forgot to add a chip beforehand (doh!). The chip-
less cartridge got caught in the printer and the pins got bent when I 
removed it. The 1270 is off warranty (3 years old and been using MIS 
inks), so I was planning to get a new 1280 (about US$400 here after 
rebate) because I assumed the repair cost would be prohibitive and my 
printer's seen some wear. Still, would anyone recommend getting
it 
repaired?

Thanks!
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels" 
<bob@b...> wrote:
> Steve:
> 
> I have two Epson refurbs (1280 & 890) One was an advance replacement
> for my 1280 with bent cart chip reading pins. The 890 was just 
bought
> outright from Epson. Both appear to be new printers that had some
> problem (or perceived problem) and were swapped out. I suspect they
> fixed my original almost new 1280 and sold it as a refub. 
> 
> So I don't think they refurbish used printers, just fix the easily
> reparied warranty replacements and sell as refurbs. Makes sense as 
you
> can't afford to fix much on an Epson before it costs more than to
> build a new one. 
> 
> Looking at it another way, for $399 they can "refurb" your old 1270
> and upgrade it to a 1280 and you won't have to even bother sending 
the
> 1270 back to them. 
> 
> If you can live with 8 1/2 x 11, they have refurb 890's for $185 
again

> but no longer have the $100 rebate. That's how I bought my 890 for
> $85, not too much more than the cost of the included new ink carts.
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
> > Has anyone been able to send a printer back to Epson and have it 
> > completely refurbished, not just repaired? Someone just gave me a 
> > 1270 with a terminal banding problem and lots of mileage, anf the 
> > local Epson guys are total meatheads-I don't trust them, I would 
> > much rather get a complete refurb if that is possible.
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> > 
> > http://www.stevekphoto.com

Hallo,

Once I also did that foolish thing, putting a cart without chip into 
the printer. That was a good lesson!

However I managed to solve that problem!

Sorry I'm not that a good at english...I'll try though,

You need plenty of towels and paper, a pair of metal sheet scissors 
and a iron saw blade plus a cut out of an stif thin plastic sheet.

From the stif plastic sheet - cut out an about 10 mm wide strip that 
fits between the chip and the chip reading pins.

Start with cutting down into the front of the cart. Use the iron saw 
blade where the metal sheet scissors dont fit. Use papertowels to 
clean up the mess while doing this surgery. It's awfull! Be happy you 
are not doing this on a human in a hospital. Just dig in!

The main goal here is to get space for putting down the stif plastic 
sheet in between the chip and the chip reading pins. 
When you can place that plastic sheet in front of the chip, just lift 
out the cart carefully.

This surgery is helped using something to secure the cart in the 
holder like good plastic straps.

I saved one of my printers this way.

Fiat Lux!
Bo
Viking, Multi Pro Free Style Berserking Team / Sweden
 
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" 
<mark_mccarvill@h...> wrote:
> My 1270 also has bent cart chip reading pins, from when I inserted 
a 
> new cartridge and forgot to add a chip beforehand (doh!). The chip-
> less cartridge got caught in the printer and the pins got bent when 
I 
> removed it. The 1270 is off warranty (3 years old and been using 
MIS 
> inks), so I was planning to get a new 1280 (about US$400 here after 
> rebate) because I assumed the repair cost would be prohibitive and 
my 
> printer's seen some wear. Still, would anyone recommend getting
> it 
> repaired?
> 
> Thanks!
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels" 
> <bob@b...> wrote:
> > Steve:
> > 
> > I have two Epson refurbs (1280 & 890) One was an advance 
replacement
> > for my 1280 with bent cart chip reading pins. The 890 was just 
> bought
> > outright from Epson. Both appear to be new printers that had some
> > problem (or perceived problem) and were swapped out. I suspect 
they
> > fixed my original almost new 1280 and sold it as a refub. 
> > 
> > So I don't think they refurbish used printers, just fix the easily
> > reparied warranty replacements and sell as refurbs. Makes sense 
as 
> you
> > can't afford to fix much on an Epson before it costs more than to
> > build a new one. 
> > 
> > Looking at it another way, for $399 they can "refurb" your old 
1270
> > and upgrade it to a 1280 and you won't have to even bother 
sending 
> the
> > 1270 back to them. 
> > 
> > If you can live with 8 1/2 x 11, they have refurb 890's for $185 
> again
> > but no longer have the $100 rebate. That's how I bought my 890 for
> > $85, not too much more than the cost of the included new ink 
carts.
> > 
> > Bob Michaels
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> > Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
> > > Has anyone been able to send a printer back to Epson and have 
it 
> > > completely refurbished, not just repaired? Someone just gave me 
a 
> > > 1270 with a terminal banding problem and lots of mileage, anf 
the 
> > > local Epson guys are total meatheads-I don't trust them, I 
would 

> > > much rather get a complete refurb if that is possible.
> > > 
> > > Steve Karafyllakis
> > > 
> > > http://www.stevekphoto.com

Bob;
WE can't afford to fix much on them because we're being royaly 
screwed for parts, if not service; I'm sure it doesn't cost Epson 
even 20% of what we pay, and if they send them overseas for the 
refurb, their labor doesn't cost much either.
> can't afford to fix much on an Epson before it costs more than to
> build a new one. 
> 
> Looking at it another way, for $399 they can "refurb" your old 1270
> and upgrade it to a 1280 and you won't have to even bother sending 
the
> 1270 back to them. 
I don't want a second (I already have a 1280)12xx machine badly 
enough to pay $400 for it; $200-250 is my limit. If I can't do it 
that way, I'll sell it cheap for parts to some poor soul who forgot 
to put a chip on his cart, I've been there myself.

Regards,

Steve Karafyllakis

http://www.stevekphoto.com

If your considering refurbishing your Epson printer you might want to try,

ARDITO'S / INK JET SPECIALISTS.COM  
377 LITTLE EAST NECK ROAD NORTH  
West Babylon,  NY  11704  
RON@...  
631 661 7281  
Fax: 631 661 7325  

 I just sent my 3000 there fore its 10,000 mile check up. They came high
recommended. 








on 5/24/03 8:16 PM, Steven Karafyllakis at steve@... wrote:

> 
> Bob;
> WE can't afford to fix much on them because we're being royaly
> screwed for parts, if not service; I'm sure it doesn't cost Epson
> even 20% of what we pay, and if they send them overseas for the
> refurb, their labor doesn't cost much either.
>> can't afford to fix much on an Epson before it costs more than to
>> build a new one.
>> 
>> Looking at it another way, for $399 they can "refurb" your old 1270
>> and upgrade it to a 1280 and you won't have to even bother sending
> the
>> 1270 back to them.
> I don't want a second (I already have a 1280)12xx machine badly
> enough to pay $400 for it; $200-250 is my limit. If I can't do it
> that way, I'll sell it cheap for parts to some poor soul who forgot
> to put a chip on his cart, I've been there myself.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> http://www.stevekphoto.com
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, THOMAS MOORE 
<tmoore306@m...> wrote:
> If your considering refurbishing your Epson printer you might want 
to try,
> 
> ARDITO'S / INK JET SPECIALISTS.COM  
> 377 LITTLE EAST NECK ROAD NORTH  
> West Babylon,  NY  11704  
> RON@I...  
> 631 661 7281  
> Fax: 631 661 7325  
> 
>  I just sent my 3000 there fore its 10,000 mile check up. They 
came high
> recommended. 
> 
> 
Thank you Thomas! Have you gotten it back yet? Can you tell me what 
the cost was?


Steve Karafyllakis
http://www.stevekphoto.com

> 
> 
> 
> on 5/24/03 8:16 PM, Steven Karafyllakis at steve@s... wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Bob;
> > WE can't afford to fix much on them because we're being royaly
> > screwed for parts, if not service; I'm sure it doesn't cost Epson
> > even 20% of what we pay, and if they send them overseas for the
> > refurb, their labor doesn't cost much either.

I tried to access their web site without success, but found this site from
Bill Bergh at Ink Jet Mall. Arditos list cost for each Epson Printer and
service provided. I look forward to getting my 3000 back at the end of this
week. 

I have talked to Ron Ardito and this is where we will be sending our
printers. They have the Piezography BW software and are genuinely interested
in doing a good job repairing and aligning the printers. How refreshing!!!

Normally they charge $25 to open up the machine and give an estimate on what
the repair will be. Mention that you are an Inkjetmall customer and they
will waive this fee.

www.inkjetspecialists.com
www. arditos.com
Ardito Business Machines
377 Little East Neck Road North, West Babylon, NY 11704
Phone (631) 661-7281       Fax 661-7325


Ardito's - An Epson Authorized Premier Service Center providing warranty and
out of warranty service on the complete line of Epson Ink Jet printers.
Ardito's specializes in the wide format models used in the graphic and
photography industry. All work is done at our location by Epson Certified
technicians. We refurbish Stylus 3000's and Pro 5000's at extremely
reasonable rates. All repairs are completed within 5 working days or less.
Epson parts at discounted prices. We repair the full product line including
the Fiery rip stations.

on 5/25/03 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis at steve@... wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, THOMAS MOORE
> <tmoore306@m...> wrote:
>> If your considering refurbishing your Epson printer you might want
> to try,
>> 
>> ARDITO'S / INK JET SPECIALISTS.COM  
>> 377 LITTLE EAST NECK ROAD NORTH  
>> West Babylon,  NY  11704  
>> RON@I...  
>> 631 661 7281  
>> Fax: 631 661 7325  
>> 
>> I just sent my 3000 there fore its 10,000 mile check up. They
> came high
>> recommended. 
>> 
>> 
> Thank you Thomas! Have you gotten it back yet? Can you tell me what
> the cost was?
> 
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> http://www.stevekphoto.com
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 5/24/03 8:16 PM, Steven Karafyllakis at steve@s... wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob;
>>> WE can't afford to fix much on them because we're being royaly
>>> screwed for parts, if not service; I'm sure it doesn't cost Epson
>>> even 20% of what we pay, and if they send them overseas for the
>>> refurb, their labor doesn't cost much either.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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