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Re:levels and grain

2003-06-10 by grdglass@aol.com

Stephen,

Nice technique.  Where exactly does the the box pop up asking about medium 
gray...in the background copy layer?  I'm using PS 7.01 and there isn't a box 
pop up.

Helene

> I come to a similar result differently, by using a copy of the 
> background layer after switching to 8 bit, often in soft light mode, 
> and then erasing the parts of the layer that produces effects I do 
> not want.  Also, rather than use the burn/dodge tool, I use a layer 
> set to soft light and medium gray (a box pops up asking if you want 
> to set it to medium gray after you choose soft light).  Using that 
> layer, you can burn by setting the foreground color to black and 
> using the brush tool and dodge by using white as the foreground 
> color.  The advantage over the burn/dodge tool is flexibility as you 
> have control over both the brush and opacity.  (The opacity control 
> seems finer grained that that using the tool.)
> 



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Re:levels and grain

2003-06-10 by Stephen Kobrin

Helene,

I use PS 7.1.  Don't use a background copy layer, just a plain, 
standard "new layer."  After you click new layer, the command box, or 
whatever it is called appears, which gives you a drop down for mode.  
After you select "soft light" a checkbox appears which asks if you 
want it to be a medium gray, or something to that effect.  I usually 
add this layer after a background copy layer which I set to one of a 
number of modes and opacitities depending on the shot.  I then move 
the new "burn - dodge" layer down one so that it is directly above 
the background.  

Steve


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, grdglass@a... 
wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> Nice technique.  Where exactly does the the box pop up asking about 
medium 
> gray...in the background copy layer?  I'm using PS 7.01 and there 
isn't a box 
> pop up.
> 
> Helene
> 
> > I come to a similar result differently, by using a copy of the 
> > background layer after switching to 8 bit, often in soft light 
mode, 
> > and then erasing the parts of the layer that produces effects I 
do 
> > not want.  Also, rather than use the burn/dodge tool, I use a 
layer 
> > set to soft light and medium gray (a box pops up asking if you 
want 
> > to set it to medium gray after you choose soft light).  Using 
that 
> > layer, you can burn by setting the foreground color to black and 
> > using the brush tool and dodge by using white as the foreground 
> > color.  The advantage over the burn/dodge tool is flexibility as 
you 
> > have control over both the brush and opacity.  (The opacity 
control 
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> > seems finer grained that that using the tool.)
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re:levels and grain

2003-06-10 by grdglass

Steve,

Thanks, I see it.  I had been looking for a pop up.

Helene

> Helene,
> 
> I use PS 7.1.  Don't use a background copy layer, just a plain, 
> standard "new layer."  After you click new layer, the command box, 
or 
> whatever it is called appears, which gives you a drop down for 
mode.  
> After you select "soft light" a checkbox appears which asks if you 
> want it to be a medium gray, or something to that effect.  I 
usually 
> add this layer after a background copy layer which I set to one of 
a 
> number of modes and opacitities depending on the shot.  I then move 
> the new "burn - dodge" layer down one so that it is directly above 
> the background.  
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, grdglass@a... 
> wrote:
> > Stephen,
> > 
> > Nice technique.  Where exactly does the the box pop up asking 
about 
> medium 
> > gray...in the background copy layer?  I'm using PS 7.01 and there 
> isn't a box 
> > pop up.
> > 
> > Helene
> > 
> > > I come to a similar result differently, by using a copy of the 
> > > background layer after switching to 8 bit, often in soft light 
> mode, 
> > > and then erasing the parts of the layer that produces effects I 
> do 
> > > not want.  Also, rather than use the burn/dodge tool, I use a 
> layer 
> > > set to soft light and medium gray (a box pops up asking if you 
> want 
> > > to set it to medium gray after you choose soft light).  Using 
> that 
> > > layer, you can burn by setting the foreground color to black 
and 
> > > using the brush tool and dodge by using white as the foreground 
> > > color.  The advantage over the burn/dodge tool is flexibility 
as 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> you 
> > > have control over both the brush and opacity.  (The opacity 
> control 
> > > seems finer grained that that using the tool.)
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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