Digital BW, The Print

Hi,

I recently bought a pack of Epson 13x19 Archival Matt paper SO41339, 
thinking a got a good deal since it's no longer available.

Well, when I openned the package I noticed that this paper was a lot 
thinner than usual with the name Epson and plus large arrows printed 
on the back. How cheap!!! Also, this paper when loaded with wet ink 
buckles and becomes limp much the same as photocopy paper.

What kind of paper is this? Enhanced Matt rebranded as EAM or some 
other cheap paper ?

Epson, if you're listening, I'm starting to hate your paper. It looks 
and feels cheap, so much so that I dont want anyone to handle my 
prints. 

In the quad b&w printing equation, it seems that inkjet paper 
technology is the lagger. Lately I've tried Ilford "Inkjet Fine Art 
Paper". While I dont have a densitometer, to my eyes, the dmax on 
this paper is so low, it's not even worth bothering with. To date I 
must have tried a dozen paper.

I've got a good printer, an inkset that I like plus the software to 
make no hassle prints. The only thing missing is real inkjet photo 
paper that doesnt look cheap, doesnt flake, has a good dmax, takes 
carbon ink and has realworld lightfastness qualities.

Is this asking for too much ?

Cheers,
Andre

>I recently bought a pack of Epson 13x19 Archival Matt paper SO41339,
>thinking a got a good deal since it's no longer available.

I have a new EAM 8.5 x 11, letter-size in front of me; it is # S041341.  It
is the same as Epson Enhanced Matte except that it still has the "Epson"
logo on the back.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

I bought some Enhanced Matte Paper SO41341 in same size yesterday. It 
has the feel and look of the old EAM but it does not have the Epson 
logo on the back nor the arrows.

But I wonder what paper I was sold as old EAM, it being a lot thinner 
than usual but still having the same photo qualities.

I'll write Epson about it, to see if they have anything to say. 

Cheers,
Andre


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> >I recently bought a pack of Epson 13x19 Archival Matt paper 
SO41339,
> >thinking a got a good deal since it's no longer available.
> 
> I have a new EAM 8.5 x 11, letter-size in front of me; it is # 
S041341.  It
> is the same as Epson Enhanced Matte except that it still has 
the "Epson"

> logo on the back.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

--Epson Archival Matte was not found to be archival- showed signs of 
yellowing after 30 yrs so they re-packaged it as "enhanced matte".
The independant company doing the tests is www.wilhelmresearch.com.

- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sceptre12345" 
<am1000@v...> wrote:
> I bought some Enhanced Matte Paper SO41341 in same size yesterday. 
It 
> has the feel and look of the old EAM but it does not have the 
Epson 
> logo on the back nor the arrows.
> 
> But I wonder what paper I was sold as old EAM, it being a lot 
thinner 

> than usual but still having the same photo qualities.
> 
> I'll write Epson about it, to see if they have anything to say. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Andre
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >I recently bought a pack of Epson 13x19 Archival Matt paper 
> SO41339,
> > >thinking a got a good deal since it's no longer available.
> > 
> > I have a new EAM 8.5 x 11, letter-size in front of me; it is # 
> S041341.  It
> > is the same as Epson Enhanced Matte except that it still has 
> the "Epson"
> > logo on the back.
> > 
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com

> 
> --Epson Archival Matte was not found to be archival- showed signs of 
> yellowing after 30 yrs so they re-packaged it as "enhanced matte".
> The independant company doing the tests is www.wilhelmresearch.com.

Oh, that "independent company"... :-)

PS - what's archival?