Digital BW, The Print

Well after holding out, partly because of money, I'm considering 
jumping into the digital camera realm. I still have budget 
considerations and since my current set up is a Canon EOS 1N with 
some good lenses it makes sense to look at the Canons. Used D60's and 
new D10's are not that far off in price so I'm focusing on the D10's 
which I see for around $1400 on ebay.

Anybody have one of these and more importantly what accessories are 
absolutely mandatory if you're shooting digital. How many memory 
cards would you need and how many images will fit on a card if you're 
shooting at maximum quality. What brands and sizes would you 
recommend?

I ask because Burning Man is coming up again soon and I'd like to 
bring a digi out there this year. I'll bring a laptop too so I can 
download a couple times a day but I'm wondering how many quality 
images can you get on a single card. I suppose one of the advantages 
of digital is you can edit on the fly and if the image sucks, just 
delete it.

Is everyone here who switched from film to digi happy with results. 
How many of you still use the film camera along with the digi?

Also where would you suggest purchasing a D10 (other than ebay) and 
the needed accessories? 

Anybody got some hot tips on that?

thanks, Tim

http://www.timtimmermans.com

Well after holding out, partly because of money, I'm considering 
> jumping into the digital camera realm. I still have budget 
> considerations and since my current set up is a Canon EOS 1N with 
> some good lenses it makes sense to look at the Canons. Used D60's 
and 
> new D10's are not that far off in price so I'm focusing on the 
D10's 

Tim

Hey,didn't Tim say 'Real World'?

I have printed for 25 years starting with the very first cibachromes 
in 1976.

I shoot Portrait with a D60 and convert to sepia and print through a 
9600 onto photorag with matte black ink. I fit 70 images onto a half 
gig card and have never shot anything except RAW (best quality). I 
do almost all my work in 16 bit not 8bit (chalk and cheese for my 
work). This gives me an uninterpolated (after camera interpolation) 
file size of 16bit 32meg to play with.

This takes me to 24x30 through PS Interpolation (10% steps)quite 
nicely for PORTRAIT. Anymore can be still great if you smooth out a 
few interpolation artifacts here and there. The CMOS and firmware on 
the D60 has less artifacts than the D1X and D760 after tests I did. 
It is a wonderful camera for B@W fine art printing.

As far as the real world goes. Side by side, my clients MUCH prefer 
the digital image onto matte paper than hasselblad onto RC paper.

I have to spend an average of two hours more per client preparing 
slides as before they were sent out, however my sales have improved 
by 20% per portrait client because I can shoot a little more and get 
better shots to choose from and can easily fix up duds where 
necessary.

My work flow has been brought forward by about 3 weeks. That is 
delivery is 2-3 weeks earlier and that has effectively paid for the 
new D60 and part of the 9600. (a surprise bonus.)

Summary: Digital for Portrait - more time spent and higher sales.

I miss my softar on the Blad though (Guassian Blur on second level 
just dont cut it)

Garry Sarre

www.sarre.com

Garry,

My point exactly! If it works for you, great. But I get tired of the  
bashing when in reality it just doesn't fit your style. It has its place 
just as anything else you use for production of a print. Enough of 
the holier than thou with regards to digital or film.

Dave


-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Garry 
Sarre" <garry@s...> wrote:
>  Well after holding out, partly because of money, I'm 
considering 
> > jumping into the digital camera realm. I still have budget 
> > considerations and since my current set up is a Canon EOS 
1N with 
> > some good lenses it makes sense to look at the Canons. 
Used D60's 
> and 
> > new D10's are not that far off in price so I'm focusing on the 
> D10's 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Hey,didn't Tim say 'Real World'?
> 
> I have printed for 25 years starting with the very first 
cibachromes 
> in 1976.
> 
> I shoot Portrait with a D60 and convert to sepia and print 
through a 
> 9600 onto photorag with matte black ink. I fit 70 images onto a 
half 
> gig card and have never shot anything except RAW (best 
quality). I 
> do almost all my work in 16 bit not 8bit (chalk and cheese for 
my 
> work). This gives me an uninterpolated (after camera 
interpolation) 
> file size of 16bit 32meg to play with.
> 
> This takes me to 24x30 through PS Interpolation (10% 
steps)quite 
> nicely for PORTRAIT. Anymore can be still great if you smooth 
out a 
> few interpolation artifacts here and there. The CMOS and 
firmware on 
> the D60 has less artifacts than the D1X and D760 after tests I 
did. 
> It is a wonderful camera for B@W fine art printing.
> 
> As far as the real world goes. Side by side, my clients MUCH 
prefer 
> the digital image onto matte paper than hasselblad onto RC 
paper.
> 
> I have to spend an average of two hours more per client 
preparing 
> slides as before they were sent out, however my sales have 
improved 
> by 20% per portrait client because I can shoot a little more and 
get 
> better shots to choose from and can easily fix up duds where 
> necessary.
> 
> My work flow has been brought forward by about 3 weeks. That 
is 
> delivery is 2-3 weeks earlier and that has effectively paid for the 
> new D60 and part of the 9600. (a surprise bonus.)
> 
> Summary: Digital for Portrait - more time spent and higher 
sales.
> 
> I miss my softar on the Blad though (Guassian Blur on second 
level 

> just dont cut it)
> 
> Garry Sarre
> 
> www.sarre.com