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2003-07-22 by johnmerrill2003
I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I need to transfer digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive film.) Could anyone suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? TIA John Merrill
2003-07-22 by Bill Morse
Hi John- I have been happy with Bowhaus, in LA. Bill Morse PhotoProspect Cambridge, MA USA on 7/21/03 9:26 PM, johnmerrill2003 wrote:
> I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I need to > transfer > digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive film.) > Could anyone > suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? > > TIA > > John Merrill > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2003-07-22 by Robert Morrison
Or you could print with a RC compatible ink (Ultratones w/ photoblack or Ultrachromes w/photoblack) to Pictorico OTF Transparency film. Isn't there a way to do contact printing to polaroid? You could actually print a larger image on the Pictorico. I've made slides this way before but the final image is rather grainy because the inkjet printers are not as high a resolution as the Slide Imagesetters...but if you just doing dye transfers in the end...this might not make a difference...might be worth a look. Robert
On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 08:00 PM, Bill Morse wrote: > Hi John- > > I have been happy with Bowhaus, in LA. > > Bill Morse > PhotoProspect > Cambridge, MA USA > > > on 7/21/03 9:26 PM, johnmerrill2003 wrote: > >> I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I >> need to >> transfer >> digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive >> film.) >> Could anyone >> suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? >> >> TIA >> >> John Merrill >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls >> and other >> resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish >> to >> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this >> same >> page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - Include your full name with your message. >> - Include the address of your website, if you have one. >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to >> keep >> them short. >> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject >> header. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames >> - Complete your Yahoo profile. >> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the >> various >> resources on the homepage. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Breakthrough Natural Health Specialties at VitaminBoost.com $20 to > $40 > Oral Sprays for Fast Results and Greater Absorption. > http://www.challengerone.com/t/l.asp?cid=2880 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/3oMABA/muYGAA/ySSFAA/ucIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2003-07-22 by John Merrill
I need to use the Daylab 35 slide printer which prints from a 35mm transparency directly onto Polaroid pack film. There are other ways to do this but they require lots of processing...The Daylab is pretty nifty; has built-in cc filters, etc. and a reasonable price. John On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 11:21 PM, Robert Morrison wrote: > Or you could print with a RC compatible ink (Ultratones w/ photoblack > or Ultrachromes w/photoblack) to Pictorico OTF Transparency film. > Isn't there a way to do contact printing to polaroid? You could > actually print a larger image on the Pictorico. I've made slides this > way before but the final image is rather grainy because the inkjet > printers are not as high a resolution as the Slide Imagesetters...but > if you just doing dye transfers in the end...this might not make a > difference...might be worth a look. > > Robert > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-07-22 by hlockwood
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "johnmerrill2003" <jmerrill@s...> wrote: > I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I need to transfer > digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive film.) Could anyone > suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? > > TIA > > John Merrill I got very good results, at a very reasonable price, from Mac McDougald -- DOOGLE DIGITAL 500 Prestwick Ridge Way # 39 - Knoxville, TN 37919 doogle@... 865-540-1308 http://www.doogle.com Harry Lockwood
2003-07-22 by Peter Nelson
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "johnmerrill2003" <jmerrill@s...> wrote: > I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I need to transfer > digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive film.) Could anyone > suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? > > TIA > > John Merrill There are lots of labs who do this and they all suck if you're going to 35mm. The technology that goes from digital to film is call a film recorder. ALL film recorders exhbit spot-blooming. I've sent out calibrated test images to various labs - both mail order and local pro custom labs - and the highest resolution I've ever gotten back from a "4000 LPI" film recorder was 1200 PPI. The highest I've gotten back from an "8000 line" fim recorder was 1700 PPI. The good news is that the film recorder resolution doesn't get any worse if you go to higher formats. So people who want to go digital to film without sacrificing resolution can output to 6x7 cm or 4x5 sheet film.
2003-07-23 by dado_1930
I have used Ellis Zacharias' service with satisfaction, especially the price. Go to http://home.earthlink.net/~elliszacharias/ . --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "johnmerrill2003" <jmerrill@s...> wrote: > I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I need to transfer > digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive film.) Could anyone
> suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? > > TIA > > John Merrill
2003-07-23 by Robert Morrison
The thing I would be concerned about with these processes...particularly if you are going to color polaroid film in the end is how good the profiling on the output device is...and whether they will be able to get a neutral image given that they will almost certainly be outputting RGB. Remember how difficult it is to get a neutral grayscale with an inkjet printer using full color...same problem with a slide setter. Of course this isn't as big a concern if you are planning to use BW polaroid film...because it will get rid of the color cast for you. One question that you probably should ask is why do you want to make Polaroid dye transfers in the first place? Couldn't you get a similar effect in photoshop and then print to a inkjet paper using a inkjet printer. In the end the final output would be much more light stable and probably cost you a lot less in time and money. Sounds like you will be spending a lot of money, with a great deal of uncertainty to get an inferior product in the end. Robert
On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 06:26 PM, johnmerrill2003 wrote: > I want to do some B&W Polaroid dye transfers. In order to do this I > need to transfer > digital images to slides. (I don't want to shoot with a B&W positive > film.) Could anyone > suggest a lab or service bureau which provides this service? > > TIA > > John Merrill > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge & refill kit orders to US & > Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, > Lexmark & more. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/ucIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2003-07-23 by John Merrill
I like the way dye transfers look and I like to manipulate by hand. It's not an inferior product; it's just different. I'm really happy with my inkjet B&W work. (I use OPM.) Once in a while I like to be painterly... On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 10:46 AM, Robert Morrison wrote: > The thing I would be concerned about with these > processes...particularly if you are going to color polaroid film in > the > end is how good the profiling on the output device is...and whether > they will be able to get a neutral image given that they will almost > certainly be outputting RGB. Remember how difficult it is to get a > neutral grayscale with an inkjet printer using full color...same > problem with a slide setter. Of course this isn't as big a concern if > you are planning to use BW polaroid film...because it will get rid of > the color cast for you. > > One question that you probably should ask is why do you want to make > Polaroid dye transfers in the first place? Couldn't you get a similar > effect in photoshop and then print to a inkjet paper using a inkjet > printer. In the end the final output would be much more light stable > and probably cost you a lot less in time and money. Sounds like you > will be spending a lot of money, with a great deal of uncertainty to > get an inferior product in the end. > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to > > keep them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > > header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-07-23 by Robert Morrison
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 08:09 AM, John Merrill wrote: > I like the way dye transfers look and I like to manipulate by hand. That I understand. > It's not an inferior product; it's just different. At best polaroid dye transfers will last 10 years because of the polaroid dyes...I don't doubt the artistic merit, just the longevity of the final product. > I'm really happy > with my inkjet B&W work. (I use OPM.) Once in a while I like to be > painterly... Given that I would strongly suggest just printing to the Pictorico OTP Film. It will get you there just fine and save you a bunch of time and money...but you will need either a dye based printer or else one of the newer pigment systems that uses photoblack. I've already done it with my 2200 and IJC...works great. Just cut the final images and put them in glass slide mounts to use with the polaroid. Robert