Digital BW, The Print

Bernd,

After I got my MIS color printer profile, I was very curious to see how
closely it brought the MIS COLOR inks into line with grayscale prints.
It did so perfectly. 

I can get prints from the MIS color inkset that are indistinguishable
from the VM Hextone Inkset. I just wanted to see if I could do it. It works.

My profile was for Epson Archival paper with MIS color pigment inks. 
Before the profile, I couldn't get the grays to fall in line without a
color crossover. Now I can.

I'll probably still keep printing on the 1280 with VM inks, no real
reason not to. I already have the VM inks and CIS system, and the prints
are gorgeous, so I'll just keep both. 

Jerry






" Ruhrfoto/Bernd L." wrote:

> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> 
> > I can
> > now print beautiful prints with any tone I want on the MIS
> COLOR
> > Archival inkset.
> .....
> 
> >And the MIS Color inkset has
> > held up as good as any inkset I've yet tried in my south window,
> so it
> > does seem reasonable the the colors will hold up reasonably
> well with
> > the black and white prints from that set.
> >
> > Jerry
> 
> Jerry, I\ufffdm loosing track.
> Are you saying that you print with color inks??
> Didn\ufffdt you praise MIS Variable Mix for weeks ??
> What did I miss??
> Bernd
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I am printing with the MIS VM inkset on a 1280, initially on Museo but soon
on Somerset Velvet and Enhanced.  So far the results are fantastic, but I
have a few questions.

The settings Paul Roark specifies include printing using the "Photo Quality
Inkjet Paper" setting (which limits you to 1440 dpi.)  Is there any reason
(other than time) not to print at 2880?  Will doing so change the densities
and necessitate a modification of the curves?  Has anyone tried printing
with the "Photo Paper" setting, which allows 2880 dpi?

I am most interested in "watercolor" type papers (heavyweight, fairly
rough.)   Does anyone have any recommendations?

Bill Morse
PhotoProspect
Cambridge, MA 02139

> I am most interested in "watercolor" type papers (heavyweight, 
fairly
> rough.)   Does anyone have any recommendations?
> 
> Bill Morse

I've been using Royal Plush from www.Mediastreet.com

It's thick and heavy with a warm tone.  It's a little rough but still 
holds sharpness. I'm using MIS VM with an 1160.

Best,

John V.

Bill,

Paul's latest recommendation for the 1280 MIS VM curves is to use 
the "Photo Paper" setting this will give you access to the 2880 dpi.

I have printed at 2880 and a 6x8 image took about 20 minutes. On 
images from 4x5 negatives I did not see any quality improvement over 
the 1440. With magnification I could see differences about they 
didn't really seem to add anything. I think that would be especially 
true with very textured papers.

Where I did see a gain was in the 6x8 image I printed 35 copies of 
for the print exchange. This was from a 35mm TMax 400 negative with 
an apparent grain structure. The 2880 dpi made the grain a tad 
crisper and it seemed worth the time. The same image at a different 
size might not benefit.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the curves shift if you change 
the dpi setting. I ran wedges at 720, 1440 and 2880, and saw a 
noticeable difference. The black box of the Epson driver may be 
shifting the load from the main and photo color channels as the dpi 
changes.

Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Bill Morse <willym@b...> 
wrote:
> I am printing with the MIS VM inkset on a 1280, initially on Museo 
but soon
> on Somerset Velvet and Enhanced.  So far the results are fantastic, 
but I
> have a few questions.
> 
> The settings Paul Roark specifies include printing using the "Photo 
Quality
> Inkjet Paper" setting (which limits you to 1440 dpi.)  Is there any 
reason
> (other than time) not to print at 2880?  Will doing so change the 
densities
> and necessitate a modification of the curves?  Has anyone tried 
printing
> with the "Photo Paper" setting, which allows 2880 dpi?
> 
> I am most interested in "watercolor" type papers (heavyweight, 
fairly

> rough.)   Does anyone have any recommendations?
> 
> Bill Morse
> PhotoProspect
> Cambridge, MA 02139