Digital BW, The Print

I have just had delivery of a CIS with UT to work on my 1270.  I am 
using the NCA curves from the inksupply.com website and find the best 
result with the nc1. curve. 

Is this the best set of curves to use on a PC and 1270 or are there 
others that would be more suitable?

Thanks

Gareth

Gareth,

I think the nc1 curves are for the VM inks right?  

I have a 1280 and really like the Paul Roark UT80 curves which are 
for the UT inks.  I thought they were in the files section under 
files>inksets>MIS>MIS Ultra Tone Inks but I can't seem open them 
now.  They don't appear to be there.  If you're interested email me 
off list and I'd be glad to send them to you.  I really like them.  
Very smooth and great shadow detail.

Tom

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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "garethlock4472" 
<g.loc@o...> wrote:
> I have just had delivery of a CIS with UT to work on my 1270.  I 
am 
> using the NCA curves from the inksupply.com website and find the 
best 
> result with the nc1. curve. 
> 
> Is this the best set of curves to use on a PC and 1270 or are 
there 

> others that would be more suitable?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gareth

Thanks for that Tom downloaded and trialling at this time, or would 
do if my computer didnt keep crashing in this heat!

Gareth

PS Where did you get your UT from? UK or US?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Husband" 
<thusband@s...> wrote:

> Gareth,
> 
> I think the nc1 curves are for the VM inks right?  
> 
> I have a 1280 and really like the Paul Roark UT80 curves which are 
> for the UT inks.  I thought they were in the files section under 
> files>inksets>MIS>MIS Ultra Tone Inks but I can't seem open them 
> now.  They don't appear to be there.  If you're interested email me 
> off list and I'd be glad to send them to you.  I really like them.  
> Very smooth and great shadow detail.
> 
> Tom
> 
> --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "garethlock4472" 
> <g.loc@o...> wrote:
> > I have just had delivery of a CIS with UT to work on my 1270.  I 
> am 
> > using the NCA curves from the inksupply.com website and find the 
> best 
> > result with the nc1. curve. 
> > 
> > Is this the best set of curves to use on a PC and 1270 or are 
> there 
> > others that would be more suitable?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Gareth

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "garethlock4472" 
<g.loc@o...> wrote:
> Thanks for that Tom downloaded and trialling at this time, or 
would 
> do if my computer didnt keep crashing in this heat!
> 
> Gareth
> 
> PS Where did you get your UT from? UK or US?

If it's hot you must be in the UK.  I hear it's been a little warm.

I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area so I got my UT ink from MIS here 
in the US.

Good luck!

Tom

Gareth,

>I have just had delivery of a CIS with UT to work on my 1270.  I am
>using the NCA curves from the inksupply.com website and find the best
>result with the nc1. curve.

>Is this the best set of curves to use on a PC and 1270 or are there
>others that would be more suitable?

The 870/1270 vm "NCA" curves are probably the best curves for the UT inkset
and the 1270.  I have not made UT-specific curves for the 1270.  The old vm
and new UT inksets use the same densities.  I found on my 1160 the old
curves worked quite well.  The UT inkset was designed so that the "nc" curve
would produce a neutral print with a slight "selenium" bias.

Let us know what curves work the best on the 1270.  There are older 1270
curves out there also.  I have not heard whether the 1280 UT curves work on
the 1270.  In general, the curves only work well with the driver they were
designed for.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Funny enough this is what I have found; the old NCA curves work 
better than the UT curves.  I get quite alot of posterization when 
using the UT80 curves whereas they are pretty clean using the NCA 
curves. I have also found the UT curves make the deep shadows too 
light meaning that they are light grey rather than dark grey/black.

I will keep you posted as I get more results.

However, the best thing about the UT inks is the (almost) lack of 
metarism.  I have done some test prints on Fuji Multijet and they are 
very good, not like the severe bronzing that I got when using the 
Permajet VT Blax pigment inks.

Thanks for the advice, Gareth

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Gareth,
> 
> >I have just had delivery of a CIS with UT to work on my 1270.  I am
> >using the NCA curves from the inksupply.com website and find the 
best
> >result with the nc1. curve.
> 
> >Is this the best set of curves to use on a PC and 1270 or are there
> >others that would be more suitable?
> 
> The 870/1270 vm "NCA" curves are probably the best curves for the 
UT inkset
> and the 1270.  I have not made UT-specific curves for the 1270.  
The old vm
> and new UT inksets use the same densities.  I found on my 1160 the 
old
> curves worked quite well.  The UT inkset was designed so that 
the "nc" curve
> would produce a neutral print with a slight "selenium" bias.
> 
> Let us know what curves work the best on the 1270.  There are older 
1270
> curves out there also.  I have not heard whether the 1280 UT curves 
work on
> the 1270.  In general, the curves only work well with the driver 
they were

> designed for.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com