Digital BW, The Print

I saw this in a Reuters story and thought others might find it interesting:

"HP, based in Palo Alto, California, unveiled what it said was its most
extensive digital photography line-up ever, including the first eight-ink
photo printer with studio grade paper that it said surpasses traditional
photography on image quality and fade resistance."

Hextone b/w printing, septone b/w printing, oct-tone b/w printing :)

From the little information I could find, it doesn't look like this printer
is an "Epson Killer" when it comes to printing black and white...

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HP photosmart 7960 photo printer

Technical Specifications

Resolution
color: up to 4800-optimized dpi color (up to 4800 x 1200-optimized dpi color
when printing
printing from a computer and 1200-input dpi)
black: up to 1200-rendered dpi black when printing from a computer
print resolution technology: hp photoret pro

Media Sizes and Weights Media Sizes and Weights
sizes: U.S. letter, legal, executive, envelopes, index cards, 4 x 6.5-inch
with tab
weight: 16 to 24 lb (60 to 90 g/m2) U.S. letter, banner paper; 20 to 24 lb
(75 to 90 g/m2)
g/m2) U.S. legal, envelopes; up to 110 lb index maximum (up to 200 g/m2)
cards; up to
to 130 lb (up to 240 g/m2) photo paper

hp photosmart 7960 photo printer; hp 56 black
black inkjet print cartridge (19 ml) C6656A; hp
hp 57 tri-color inkjet print cartridge (17 ml) C6657A;
C6657A; hp 58 photo inkjet print cartridge (17
(17 ml) C6658A; hp 59 gray photo inkjet print cartridge
HP textured greeting card, ivory, half-fold HP textured greeting card,
ivory, half-fold

Well it would be interesting if either Inkjet Control or Imageprint  
supported it...but without third party RIP support the 8 colors are  
unlikely to do anything for us trying to print BW.

Robert

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 02:50  PM, Doug Fisher wrote:

> From the little information I could find, it doesn't look like this  
> printer
> is an "Epson Killer" when it comes to printing black and white...
>
> --------
>
> HP photosmart 7960 photo printer
>
> Technical Specifications
>
> Resolution
> color: up to 4800-optimized dpi color (up to 4800 x 1200-optimized dpi  
> color
> when printing
> printing from a computer and 1200-input dpi)
> black: up to 1200-rendered dpi black when printing from a computer
> print resolution technology: hp photoret pro
>
> Media Sizes and Weights Media Sizes and Weights
> sizes: U.S. letter, legal, executive, envelopes, index cards, 4 x  
> 6.5-inch
> with tab
> weight: 16 to 24 lb (60 to 90 g/m2) U.S. letter, banner paper; 20 to  
> 24 lb
> (75 to 90 g/m2)
> g/m2) U.S. legal, envelopes; up to 110 lb index maximum (up to 200  
> g/m2)
> cards; up to
> to 130 lb (up to 240 g/m2) photo paper
>
> hp photosmart 7960 photo printer; hp 56 black
> black inkjet print cartridge (19 ml) C6656A; hp
> hp 57 tri-color inkjet print cartridge (17 ml) C6657A;
> C6657A; hp 58 photo inkjet print cartridge (17
> (17 ml) C6658A; hp 59 gray photo inkjet print cartridge
> HP textured greeting card, ivory, half-fold HP textured greeting card,
> ivory, half-fold
>
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According to Vincent of Photo-I, B&W is where this printer shines!  
Looks to be quite interesting.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=5813017

Some comments made by Vincent Oliver in the forum section of 
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/

"The HP 7960 b/w prints are the best you will see anywhere; no cast, 
no metamerism and 73 years+ life. I'm sure an A3 printer is in the 
pipeline. HP also has the HP Designjet 120 printer, an A2+ printer. 
This uses six inks and produces some excellent colours, I will try to 
get hold of one for review."

"B/W has been totally addressed, now you can have 4097 shades of true 
grey, compared to 17 shades on a normal six ink printer, the other 
shades of grey are made up from a combination of coloured inks, 
that's why you get colour cast's. Metamerism is also a thing of the 
past, in our tests we could barely see any change of colour and we 
used several light sources."

I have always loved my HP printers, but been annoyed
with the large void spaces at the bottom of the
images. Does this new printer allow for edge-to-edge
printing?

Another problem with my HPs was the paper path.  They
didn't deal with thick papers very well.  The got
jammed.

Is this one different?

Isabel

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At 10:35 +0000 13.8.2003, sceptre12345 wrote:
*******************************************

>and 73 years+ life.

:D - and what about 73 years and 3.5 month?

BTW: By my personal experience with HP company I'm sure it should be 
7.3 years! No joke, they are able to say and to write absolutely 
anything as marketing argument.

And what about size of ink carts? - 3.7 ml or less? ;)

Martin Sluka
--

> And what about size of ink carts? - 3.7 ml or less? ;)

And what about the cost? Switching both the black and the color
cartridges cost me about $100 for my previous 1220c. That's Norwegian
price, but still...

It's nice to see that they're incorporating true BW printing though,
that's definitely a step forward.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

Epson has been the standard desktop photo printer for professionals and the dvanced amateur market for many years. They have been dealing with the issues and professionals since that time. Personally, I would rather put my faith and money in an Epson product.

Russ Martin


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mfaphoto@... wrote:

>Epson has been the standard desktop photo printer for professionals and the dvanced amateur market for many years. They have been dealing with the issues and professionals since that time. Personally, I would rather put my faith and money in an Epson product.
>
>  
>

By that measure Russ, I assume you use only OEM EPSON inks and media?


 

"Just some guy," and caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
 
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"

My memory is fading rapidly, but this sounds familiar.  A new printer with
"light grey" cartridge(s) that produces great B&W prints?  Hmmm.  Where have
I heard that before??  :)

  -----Original Message-----
  From: mcdonnellb [mailto:brian@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:42 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New 8 Color Printer...


  According to Vincent of Photo-I, B&W is where this printer shines!
  Looks to be quite interesting.

  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=5813017


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