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QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles

QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles

2003-08-14 by J Michael Sullivan

Dear List,

I have QTR working splendidly with my Epson 2200 and OSX. Wasn't
too hard to figure out the naming convention of the printer and the
text files that drive them. Love the color!!! Now just need a simple 
way to create curves beyond just "warm" and "neutral".

However, getting QTR to work with my 9600 has been something else...

Note that I *AM* able to print to the 9600 from both GIMP and
QTR. So I have proved that the GIMP part of it actually  works. The
issue I am having is that I started out copuying the 2200 curve, renamed 
it, built it, and thought that the print coming out of the  9600 would be 
"close" since the inks used between the 2200 and the 9600 are  
essentially the same. I can report that if you do what I did -- make
a copy of the 2200-warm curve, rename the printer to match your 9600,
build and  add the curves.  When you go to print what you will get 
is an EXTREMELY dark image.

So my question is: has anyone had any success at all with the
7600/9600 curves?  Could it be that I have overlooked something
simple? For example, I further edited my new 9600-warm curve with
a Gamma=1.5 and re-built it and re-printed it with no change at all.
Does that make sense?

Thanx
MJS

Re: QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles

2003-08-15 by J Michael Sullivan

FYI: I am currently running GIMP 4.2.5 as per QTR recommendations - should I be 
considering GIMP 4.3.18? Could the darkness I am experiencing with QTR on the 
9600 be attributed to GIMP?

mjs

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "J Michael Sullivan" 
<michael@h...> wrote:
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> Dear List,
> 
> I have QTR working splendidly with my Epson 2200 and OSX. Wasn't
> too hard to figure out the naming convention of the printer and the
> text files that drive them. Love the color!!! Now just need a simple 
> way to create curves beyond just "warm" and "neutral".
> 
> However, getting QTR to work with my 9600 has been something else...
> 
> Note that I *AM* able to print to the 9600 from both GIMP and
> QTR. So I have proved that the GIMP part of it actually  works. The
> issue I am having is that I started out copuying the 2200 curve, renamed 
> it, built it, and thought that the print coming out of the  9600 would be 
> "close" since the inks used between the 2200 and the 9600 are  
> essentially the same. I can report that if you do what I did -- make
> a copy of the 2200-warm curve, rename the printer to match your 9600,
> build and  add the curves.  When you go to print what you will get 
> is an EXTREMELY dark image.
> 
> So my question is: has anyone had any success at all with the
> 7600/9600 curves?  Could it be that I have overlooked something
> simple? For example, I further edited my new 9600-warm curve with
> a Gamma=1.5 and re-built it and re-printed it with no change at all.
> Does that make sense?
> 
> Thanx
> MJS

RE: [Digital BW] Re: QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles

2003-08-15 by Roger L Sopher

Gimp is more or less the equivalent of Photoshop or the like. It is
gimp-print, a different program, and cups that determines how an image is
printed. I would think it is the gimp-print settings/curves that you are
going to have to tweak.

Roger
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: J Michael Sullivan [mailto:michael@...]
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:44 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles


  FYI: I am currently running GIMP 4.2.5 as per QTR recommendations - should
I be
  considering GIMP 4.3.18? Could the darkness I am experiencing with QTR on
the
  9600 be attributed to GIMP?

  mjs

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "J Michael Sullivan"
  <michael@h...> wrote:
  > Dear List,
  >
  > I have QTR working splendidly with my Epson 2200 and OSX. Wasn't
  > too hard to figure out the naming convention of the printer and the
  > text files that drive them. Love the color!!! Now just need a simple
  > way to create curves beyond just "warm" and "neutral".
  >
  > However, getting QTR to work with my 9600 has been something else...
  >
  > Note that I *AM* able to print to the 9600 from both GIMP and
  > QTR. So I have proved that the GIMP part of it actually  works. The
  > issue I am having is that I started out copuying the 2200 curve, renamed
  > it, built it, and thought that the print coming out of the  9600 would
be
  > "close" since the inks used between the 2200 and the 9600 are
  > essentially the same. I can report that if you do what I did -- make
  > a copy of the 2200-warm curve, rename the printer to match your 9600,
  > build and  add the curves.  When you go to print what you will get
  > is an EXTREMELY dark image.
  >
  > So my question is: has anyone had any success at all with the
  > 7600/9600 curves?  Could it be that I have overlooked something
  > simple? For example, I further edited my new 9600-warm curve with
  > a Gamma=1.5 and re-built it and re-printed it with no change at all.
  > Does that make sense?
  >
  > Thanx
  > MJS


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Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP with Epson 9600 troubles

2003-08-15 by Carl Schofield

Roy had a similar experience trying to transfer 2200 profiles to a 7600  
and it seems that this printer puts out a lot more ink than the 2200,  
so he had to cut back on the ink limits.  I'll send you his profiles  
for the 7600 and you can see if they work better with your 9600.  They  
were done with PK ink so you may have to modify them.

Carl
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On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 07:15  PM, J Michael Sullivan wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I have QTR working splendidly with my Epson 2200 and OSX. Wasn't
> too hard to figure out the naming convention of the printer and the
> text files that drive them. Love the color!!! Now just need a simple
> way to create curves beyond just "warm" and "neutral".
>
> However, getting QTR to work with my 9600 has been something else...
>
> Note that I *AM* able to print to the 9600 from both GIMP and
> QTR. So I have proved that the GIMP part of it actually  works. The
> issue I am having is that I started out copuying the 2200 curve,  
> renamed
> it, built it, and thought that the print coming out of the  9600 would  
> be
> "close" since the inks used between the 2200 and the 9600 are
> essentially the same. I can report that if you do what I did -- make
> a copy of the 2200-warm curve, rename the printer to match your 9600,
> build and  add the curves.  When you go to print what you will get
> is an EXTREMELY dark image.
>
> So my question is: has anyone had any success at all with the
> 7600/9600 curves?  Could it be that I have overlooked something
> simple? For example, I further edited my new 9600-warm curve with
> a Gamma=1.5 and re-built it and re-printed it with no change at all.
> Does that make sense?
>
> Thanx
> MJS
>
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