Digital BW, The Print

In my experience the Hahnemuhle photorag is closer to EEM than Epson 
Velvet Fine Art(EVFA) in overall texture and brightness.The 
Hahnemuhle is also a little heavier and does not ripple at 2880dpi( 
as does EEM). The Hahnemuhle is only minimally less white, whereas 
the EVFA is significantly less white.The Dmax appears to be about the 
same for all three papers from visual inspection alone.
By the way, is the Hahnemuhle printable on either side????
If only one side is printable, it's next to impossible to tell which 
side is the printable surface. For all I know, the few prints I've 
made on Hahnemuhle could have been made on the wrong side. Given that 
possibility , even the nonprintable side closely approximates EEM.

HPR tends to look a bit too warm to my eye (setup: Epson 1160, 
Lyson Quad Black Neutral) compared to EAM/EEM.

On the subject of proofing and final printing, I use Epson 
Heavyweight Matte for the former, EEM for the latter. In display or 
storage, I've yet to experience any degree of yellowing.

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"digikdm" <monroekd@h...> wrote:

>In my experience the Hahnemuhle photorag is closer to EEM 
>than Epson Velvet Fine Art(EVFA) in overall texture and 
>brightness.The Hahnemuhle is also a little heavier and does 
>not ripple at 2880dpi (as does EEM). The Hahnemuhle is only 
>minimally less white, whereas the EVFA is significantly less 
>white.The Dmax appears to be about the same for all three 
>papers from visual inspection alone. By the way, is the 
>Hahnemuhle printable on either side???? If only one side is 
>printable, it's next to impossible to tell which side is the 
>printable surface. For all I know, the few prints I've made on 
>Hahnemuhle could have been made on the wrong side. Given 
>that possibility , even the nonprintable side closely 
>approximates EEM.

After reading Epson's own predictions of life you may want to use the 
EEM for proofing and HWM for your final prints:)

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "amateriat" 
<bwbenton@b...> wrote:
> HPR tends to look a bit too warm to my eye (setup: Epson 1160, 
> Lyson Quad Black Neutral) compared to EAM/EEM.
> 
> On the subject of proofing and final printing, I use Epson 
> Heavyweight Matte for the former, EEM for the latter. In display or 
> storage, I've yet to experience any degree of yellowing.
...

Indeed, I've read that info, as well as everything else I could get 
my digitized mitts on over the past two years.  Epson *should* 
know their product better than anyone else, but they've shot 
themselves in the foot more than once with their data.  Current 
test data from various sources tends to, well, vary. I think it'll be
a while before the haze clears and I can choose my digital output 
materials with the same confidence with which I choose my 
cameras and film. 

Of course, the digital imaging realm is joined at the hip with the 
computing environment, where market change and instability is 
the norm (and potentially more profitable, although there are 
some HP execs who might argue that point with me right now).

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark 
Hahn" <markhahn2000@y...> wrote:

>After reading Epson's own predictions of life you may want to 
>use the EEM for proofing and HWM for your final prints:)
> 
> mark