Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
 I am running the Ultra's in my 1280 and was not getting very good 
transitions in my prints with Paul's curves(1280's and 1290's) After 
Paul's post about using the driver sliders for tone adjustment in his 
new inkset I figured I'd try it with the Ultratones. I have printed a 
multistep wedge and four seperate images. They all look good from 
about a medium warm tone to a neutral cool tone. Not much more 
adjustment in the sliders to go either way. Settings were as follows.
Medium warm: Magenta -10
Neutral : Cyan -10
Neutral Cool: Cyan -20 Magenta + 20
Images printed from greyscale and all other setting as per Paul's 
Ultratone workflow
 Does this sound right? Has this all been gone through before?
Thanks,
John
PS: Thanks to all who share their knowledge....I have learned alot 
following your posts.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jbwislar" 
<jbwislar@a...> wrote:
> Hi,
>  I am running the Ultra's in my 1280 and was not getting very good 
> transitions in my prints with Paul's curves(1280's and 1290's) 
After 
> Paul's post about using the driver sliders for tone adjustment in 
his 
> new inkset I figured I'd try it with the Ultratones

I have a new 1290 in its box waiting for me to make up my mind what 
to use for B&W printing with it.  I have been waiting for MIS to 
remove its caveat emptor on the ultratones, and am curious why it is 
taking so long.  However on this thread and others, I am confused 
about what "using the driver sliders for tone adjustment" means.  I 
am using PS6.  I assume you are not referring to the 'selective 
color' sliders in PS6.

Colin

>  I assume you are not referring to the 'selective 
> color' sliders in PS6.
> 
> Colin

Hi Colin,
I'm referring to the epson print driver. From the main tab(in the 
Epson print dialoge) select 
custom>advanced>color controls. There are selections for brightness, 
contrast, saturation, cyan, magenta, yellow. I'm sure I'm not getting 
the full range of tones available but I don't want an extremely cool 
or warm print anyway.
Anybody tried this?
John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jbwislar" 
<jbwislar@a...> wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> I'm referring to the epson print driver. From the main tab(in the 
> Epson print dialoge) select 
> custom>advanced>color controls. There are selections for 
brightness, 
> contrast, saturation, cyan, magenta, yellow. I'm sure I'm not 
getting 
> the full range of tones available but I don't want an extremely 
cool 
> or warm print anyway.
> Anybody tried this?
> John

John,

Thanks for the clarification, I'm with you now.  I haven't ventured 
into that terrain having used the Randall FS for B&W and profiles for 
colour.  

Colin

on 9/4/03 12:00 AM, colingruk at cconway@... wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jbwislar"
> <jbwislar@a...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am running the Ultra's in my 1280 and was not getting very good
>> transitions in my prints with Paul's curves(1280's and 1290's)
> After 
>> Paul's post about using the driver sliders for tone adjustment in
> his 
>> new inkset I figured I'd try it with the Ultratones
> 
> I have a new 1290 in its box waiting for me to make up my mind what
> to use for B&W printing with it.  I have been waiting for MIS to
> remove its caveat emptor on the ultratones, and am curious why it is
> taking so long.  However on this thread and others, I am confused
> about what "using the driver sliders for tone adjustment" means.  I
> am using PS6.  I assume you are not referring to the 'selective
> color' sliders in PS6.
> 
> Colin

If you read Roark's workflow for the MIS VM inks he tells you you can adjust
the tone of the print a bit by using the sliders in The PRINTER dialog box
(under "advanced" click "color controls" and you'll see the sliders). For
example I like the Med warm tone but slightly less warm so I slide the
Magenta slider +10.

Sue


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