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2003-10-20 by Jon
Hi Barbara and others, Please edit your message when replying to a message from a digest--Barbara, you posted 22 messages from an earlier digest to the list. Also, please change the subject from 'Digest Number XXXX' to an accurate title. That makes searching through the archives much more accurate. Jon
2003-10-21 by bfwoolner
Again, I apologize for the grand error in not editing my message. Will not happen again --- Barbara Woolner
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:21 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1817
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Barbara Woolner, et al.
From: Jon <vze249jf@...>
2. C-82 & Training courses (was Digest 1815)
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
3. RE: Image Processors -- Silverfast HDR
From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
4. Re: Epson 4000 info
From: "sceptre12345" <am1000@...>
5. Re: Re: Epson 4000 info
From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
6. Schoellerhammer archival matte paper
From: Richard Smallfield <r.smallfield@...>
7. Oriental fiber inkjet papers AVAILABLE at B+H
From: sandersm@...
8. Re: Epson 4000 info
From: "Dan Honemann" <dan_honemann@...>
9. Re: Epson 4000 for B&W
From: "kenschuster" <ken.schuster@...>
10. Apology Re: Digest Number 1815
From: "bfwoolner" <bfwoolner@...>
11. RE: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
12. Clog causes solarization
From: "Ed Mathews" <ed@...>
13. RE: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
14. NEW Epson 17" printer announced
From: "Tom OConnell" <tomoc@...>
15. RE: Apology Re: Digest Number 1815
From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
16. RE: Re: Epson 4000 info
From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
17. web authoring software
From: "tneptune2" <tneptune2@...>
18. Printers? Which one? What Inks?
From: "bradmol99" <bradmol99@...>
19. Is the 2200 Epson any good?
From: "bradmol99" <bradmol99@...>
20. RE: Is the 2200 Epson any good?
From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
21. Re: Oriental fiber inkjet papers AVAILABLE at B+H
From: Mitch Alland <malland@...>
22. Re: web authoring software
From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...>
23. 1280 Ink Indicators - Nothing
From: "scottburroughs2003" <burroughs23@...>
24. Re: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
25. Re: NEW Epson 17" printer announced
From: "B. Alex Pettit Jr." <a_pettit_jr@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:05:33 -0400
From: Jon <vze249jf@...>
Subject: Barbara Woolner, et al.
Hi Barbara and others,
Please edit your message when replying to a message from a digest--Barbara,
you posted 22 messages from an earlier digest to the list. Also, please
change the subject from 'Digest Number XXXX' to an accurate title. That
makes searching through the archives much more accurate.
Jon
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:21:46 -0700
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
Subject: C-82 & Training courses (was Digest 1815)
Barbara,
I just by luck saw your message. Since I only read some of the messages, if
the subject line doesn't catch my eye, it gets deleted. So, be sure to
change the subject line when responding. Otherwise I might well
accidentally delete a message that I would have liked to respond to.
You wrote:
>>"training courses " caught my eye in your recent post
>>regarding your recent work on the C-82 for non-photographers.
>Paul, I have been lurking on this list for about 6 months
>and have yet to drum up the courage to begin B&W printing
> ...
> Do you teach any workshops on B&W printing?
I have not recently been teaching workshops. However, I will probably teach
a workshop at Anderson Ranch in Colorado this summer, and there is a
possibility that I'll get involved with groups that have special interests
in B&W old photo reproductions -- a subject that has fascinated me for some
time.
I spoke with a scrapbook store owner in Santa Barbara today who has similar
interests and has regular courses on a variety of subjects. A venue like
that might be appropriate for quick and easy training that just gets the
people over the threshold or barrier that digital B&W printing still has.
Once the fear of the technology is overcome and there are positive results,
B&W digital printing is so self-rewarding that no further push is needed.
Lowering that threshold and getting people over it quickly is definitely
something I'm pursuing.
>Do you teach on an individual basis?
I have, but that is something that is very individual and needs to be
handled off list.
I'm encouraged that lurkers are responding to my recent efforts. We'll get
top-notch, archival B&W to be cheap and easy yet. I think the technology is
definitely there to do it.
Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:21:16 -0700
From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
Subject: RE: Image Processors -- Silverfast HDR
* -----Original Message-----
* From: sandersm@... [mailto:sandersm@...]
* Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 2:06 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: [Digital BW] Image Processors -- Silverfast HDR
*
*
* Is anyone on the list using Silverfast HDR? What do you all
* think about it?
* It shipped along with Silverfast Ai when I got my Microtek
* 120tf scanner,
* but I've never bothered to install it. Is Silverfast HDR a
* good alternative
* to PS Elements?
Sanders,
Silverfast HDR is a piece of scanning software designed to "scan" TIFF files
of "raw" or unadjusted scans. I use it in my workflow which consists of
scanning to an "HDR" file with SF Ai, opening the file with SF HDR to set
the end point sliders using SF Levels and sending the file to Photoshop.
It is a nice tool for this if you got it free. When working with raw scan
files the data is often very bunched up close to one end of the scale. SF
HDR simply has a better on-screen Levels histogram and is easier to work
with. I have encountered some problems with SF HDR Levels if I adjust the
gamma as well as the endpoints so I wait to do these adjustments with Curves
in Photoshop.
Martin Wesley
http://www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:41:35 -0000
From: "sceptre12345" <am1000@...>
Subject: Re: Epson 4000 info
Links to this printer are popping up all over.
Here's another one:
http://www.inkjetart.com/4000/index.html
Cheers,
Andre
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:24:58 -0400
From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Epson 4000 info
The Epson site had this to say about B&W printing capability of the
4000:
"Professional Level Black & White Photographic Printing\ufffd
Produces a truly consistent image with little color crossover or
colorcasts
Reduced metamerism on 7-color black & white prints
Depending upon media, produces a black D-max up to 2.1
Produces sellable quality neutral or toned black and white prints
\ufffdAvailable only when using the Photographic Ink Mode (7-color Ink
Configuration)"
No details about how they achieve "reduced metamerism".
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 06:41 PM, sceptre12345 wrote:
> Links to this printer are popping up all over.
> Here's another one:
>
> http://www.inkjetart.com/4000/index.html
>
> Cheers,
> Andre
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:40:12 +1300
From: Richard Smallfield <r.smallfield@...>
Subject: Schoellerhammer archival matte paper
Hi,
I've been ringing around art suppliers in Auckland to see who stocks what
archival paper. One place had Schoellerhammer, which I've never heard
mention of on this list. I wondered if anyone had any experience with it?
It also comes in linen 200g and 300g.
thanks,
Richard
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http://photos.smallfield.vze.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:57:32 EDT
From: sandersm@...
Subject: Oriental fiber inkjet papers AVAILABLE at B+H
Oriental hasn't officially released their new coated fibre paper yet --
they're announcing it at the PhotoPlus Expo next weekened. BUT they've
already
shipped it to B+H so they would be fully stocked for the Expo, and B+H has
put
it on sale now.
The paper is marketed as Oriental Graphica FB Glossy, and is available in
81/2 x 11 and 13x19 sizes. I bought a package of both sizes in B+H's store
in
Manhattan this evening; it is also available for purchase on B+H's website
(www.bhphotovideo.com). I asked Yossi, the department manager, how much
they had
in stock, and he said they had taken delivery of a pretty big shipment, and
shouldn't run out soon.
I know a lot of people on this list have been eagerly awaiting the debut of
this paper. Don't ask me how it prints -- I just got it, and now I have to
figure out how to print it using QTR on my 2200. (Being new to QTR, I am
open
to all suggestions in this respect.) I'll post more when I have something
useful to contribute.
Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:07:42 -0000
From: "Dan Honemann" <dan_honemann@...>
Subject: Re: Epson 4000 info
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@m...> wrote:
> No details about how they achieve "reduced metamerism".
I have a hunch it involves using the optional "Epson Stylus RIP
Professional 2.0 Software RIP." ;)
Dan
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:12:46 -0400
From: "kenschuster" <ken.schuster@...>
Subject: Re: Epson 4000 for B&W
Paul, tinyurl.com is a terrific idea! Thanks!
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Help end spam and telemarketing... never respond to it, even to
"unsubscribe."
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From: Paul D. DeRocco
...snip...
Or, go to tinyurl.com, and create a shorthand for it:
http://tinyurl.com/rme2
...snip...
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:36:11 -0700
From: "bfwoolner" <bfwoolner@...>
Subject: Apology Re: Digest Number 1815
My sincerest apology to the group for sending a private email to Paul Roark
to the entire group. Double apologies for not cutting and pasting.
Barbara Woolner
----- Original Message -----
From: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1815
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:44:59 -0500
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
Subject: RE: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Thanks, Steve, that is indeed a sensible idea. However...in looking at
today's posts on the 4000, I may wait a while for it. Neutral, cold and
warm tones just about cover the waterfront for me, plus the ability for more
toning with the color inks. My prints are seldom over 11 -12" wide, but it
would be nice to have 16" paper for better salon borders. _If_ it will
perform as described, $1,800 sounds like a fair price. Now...if I could
just get my ancient 1270 back in action after whatever ImagePrint did to my
system.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kale [mailto:stevekale@...]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:58 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Simply suggesting that Ken test with the 2200 rather than hopping in boots
On all up front...
:-)
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:52:02 -0400
From: "Ed Mathews" <ed@...>
Subject: Clog causes solarization
This, I learned tonight.
Background Update to most recent:
* Printing well with VM on 1280.
* Decide to try UT B&W.
* Eboni Black clogs, no luck unclogging.
* Paul's new UT curves don't work either (solarized results).
* MIS sends replacement VM carts.
* (tonight) Install VM, 3 cleaning cycles - still severely clogged in
black.
* Decide to print anyway to force ink through nozzles. Print is
severely solarized.
So I then ran another nozzle test afterwards, and it's still
severely clogged. Try one more cleaning cycle and it clears this time
(hurray!).
I then print the same image again, which has not been touched in PS
since the first time I printed it tonight. This time it prints
beautiful - just like before this mess all started.
In comparing the two images side-by-side that came out of my
printer with the same settings, it's clear that I now understand the
digital solarization a little more, and now I can see that it can at
least be caused in part if not fully by the black ink not printing
correctly. This may present itself either with or without banding, so
sometimes it might be difficult or impossible to see that it's a clog or
lack of proper physical action on the printer's part that's causing it.
I would also suspect that it of course could be caused by a software or
curve problem, but nonetheless - the effect is the same in that the
blacks are not printing in the parts of the image that have fine black
outline against mitones, so those parts become strictly mottled and
devoid of detail with only midtones. It's like the driver prints the
mid gray background and expects the printer is drawing the detail using
black only, but that part never shows up so you just get these weird
midtone patches of ink.
It might not be readily apparent when you get a solarized image
like that, because these images still contain blacks, and the highlights
are also not affected. I guess in the parts of the images which are
either pure black or black enough, it prints just black, without mixing
fine line blacks with the midtones for the black details against gray
areas, so you might not suspect it could be a black cartridge or nozzle
fault since you are indeed seeing black areas in the prints.
Of course, most of you may have known this - but I didn't, so I'm
posting it in case anybody else could benefit. Also, this means that
Paul's curves may really have been OK for the UT inks on my 1280, if
only I have been able to get the black to print. Since I couldn't, it
doesn't't really matter to me now. I'm not trying the UT ebony anytime
soon again to figure that one out.
Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:44:33 -0500
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
Subject: RE: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Bob, in haste I overlooked the port. I could not find the port you
described in Windows Explorer, but when I checked the ports for the 1270
using properties in settings/printer, there was a port I had overlooked
labeled "CB Monitor". It pointed to the address you reference. This is
getting a little weird, if I may say so. Still, though, despite everything
I cannot install the XP software for the 1270. I think (a) off into the
dreaded registry and (b) downloading the IP demo is a _big_ mistake.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com
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From: Bob Frost [mailto:bobfrost@...]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:08 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Ken,
As you may have seen, I'm also having trouble with IP and my 2100. In all
the reading, rebooting, and reinstalling that I've done, I have read that IP
disables your existing Epson driver by various means to avoid conflict with
its own driver. When uninstalling it, using its own uninstaller since it
doesn't use the normal windows Uninstaller for some reason, it seems to
leave a new printer port that it sets up - called
C:\programfiles\iP\spool\printers\Epson 2200. You can delete this by going
to Settings/Printers/yourprinter(1270)/Properties/Ports and checking that
this new port is not there after uninstallation. If it is, delete it in that
menu, and recheck the box opposite your normal port for the 1270. IP's
uninstaller may also leave the printer installed; go to Settings/Printers
and manually delete it if necessary. On at least one occasions it said it
couldn't uninstall all the files, and I had to go to Program Files\IP and
delete the folders manually. I haven't yet looked to see what it might be
leaving in the Registry!
Bob Frost
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From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
> Would greatly appreciate any advice. I downloaded the ImagePrint demo,
> liked it, thought I would get it and a new 2200. However...after
installing
> the demo, my beloved 1270 will only print in one tone with the Epson
> software (the typical red cast), no matter whether the image sent to it is
> cold tone, warm tone or what. I uninstalled the ImagePrint demo (not easy
> to do), but still the same problem with the 1270. So I uninstalled the
1270
> as a printer and the Epson software. I tried to reinstall (the Epson XP
> driver with both USB and parallel), but the Epson software will not
> recognize the printer as installed, though it is installed. It will print
> with the native XP drivers, but the Epson print software will get to
> "installing your printer" and then hang. Thanks for any advice on this
> exotic question. It's time to upgrade, but I would like to keep the 1270.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:49:26 -0000
From: "Tom OConnell" <tomoc@...>
Subject: NEW Epson 17" printer announced
Check it out:
http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/epstpro40.html
It used the UTs and handles the 220 ml carts...yipee...I've been
going through 2200 carts like potatoe chips <g>.
Tom O'Connell
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:59:53 -0700
From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
Subject: RE: Apology Re: Digest Number 1815
Barbara,
No big deal. We have all done similar things from time to time.
Martin Wesley
http://www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
* -----Original Message-----
* From: bfwoolner [mailto:bfwoolner@...]
* Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:36 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: Apology Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1815
*
*
* My sincerest apology to the group for sending a private email
* to Paul Roark to the entire group. Double apologies for not
* cutting and pasting.
*
* Barbara Woolner
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:33 -0700
From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Epson 4000 info
> From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...]
>
> "Professional Level Black & White Photographic Printing\ufffd
> Produces a truly consistent image with little color crossover or
> colorcasts
> Reduced metamerism on 7-color black & white prints
> Depending upon media, produces a black D-max up to 2.1
> Produces sellable quality neutral or toned black and white prints
> \ufffdAvailable only when using the Photographic Ink Mode (7-color Ink
> Configuration)"
>
> No details about how they achieve "reduced metamerism".
Perhaps they use more black and less color than, say, the 2200. They made a
similar change in the 2000P driver at one point, and it did indeed reduce
metamerism, at the expense of more grain.
What I'd like to know is if it does duotone prints. The 2200 doesn't.
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Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:46:33 -0000
From: "tneptune2" <tneptune2@...>
Subject: web authoring software
Can anyone recommend affordable, or free:), web authoring software?
I need something very easy to use but that looks good. Im using OSX.
Thanks so much!
Teresa N.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:26:06 -0000
From: "bradmol99" <bradmol99@...>
Subject: Printers? Which one? What Inks?
Hi. I am new to this forum so please excuse me for asking what many may
have already asked 1000's of times before.
I love taking B&W. I use film and scan it.
I am looking to make the best acurate B&W prints i can.
What is the best B&W printer on the market to acomplish this?
What is the best set up etc? Can someone please give me the short point
blank answer on this.
Is the Epson 2200 the answer?
Regards.........Brad.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:47:44 -0000
From: "bradmol99" <bradmol99@...>
Subject: Is the 2200 Epson any good?
Is the Epson 2200 any good for making high quality B&W prints?
I see alot here about the 1280. Is this because the 1280 is a better
printer for
B&W?
I am also seeing some info here regarding other Inks. What is this about
and
where can they be obtained?
Sorry about my ignorance but i am new to the digital age here and have never
been able to get the computer or printer settings write for good images.
Thus i just go back to the old method of the dark room.
Please, can some one help me here?
Regards........Brad.
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:09:28 -0700
From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
Subject: RE: Is the 2200 Epson any good?
> From: bradmol99 [mailto:bradmol99@...]
>
> Is the Epson 2200 any good for making high quality B&W prints?
> I see alot here about the 1280. Is this because the 1280 is a
> better printer for B&W?
The 1280 dye inks certainly have deeper blacks than the 2200 Ultrachromes,
although the photo inks on non-matte paper are quite good.
As to 3rd party inks, you can get a CIS (continuous ink system) for either,
which is great for high volume printing, but I've only heard about high
quality 3rd party cartridge inks for the 1280 so far. Either way, if you
want to reserve a printer for B&W, you might want to consider quadtones or
hextones, or perhaps the Lyson narrow gamut inks, which are slightly colored
inks that let you vary the tone somewhat. I haven't tried them, though.
There are some other differences between the printers, like the fact that
the newer 2200 has a paper cutter and a FireWire interface, as well as
individual ink carts.
As to the output quality, I've found that the 2200 has some strong color
casts when I print B&W with color ink using the stock profiles. At first, I
had a really horrible brass color cast, which later cleared up, which makes
me suspect a driver bug. However, I also suspect that there are enough
unit-to-unit variations in either the printer (I hope) or the ink (I hope
not) that you really need to profile your own printer. That's not based on
having tried more than one printer, only on my belief that if the printers
and inks didn't vary, they'd be able to get the stock profiles closer.
Fortunately, I have profiling gear, and I've been able to get rid of my
color casts. I'm getting nice results now. For color stuff, I got gorgeous
results right out of the box.
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Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:10:07 +0200
From: Mitch Alland <malland@...>
Subject: Re: Oriental fiber inkjet papers AVAILABLE at B+H
> The paper is marketed as Oriental Graphica FB Glossy, and is available
> in 8-1/2 x 11 and 13x19 sizes.
According to Robert Morrison's July posting it was going to be
available in wider roll as well? Any news on roll availability?
--Mitch/Paris
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:43:48 -0000
From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...>
Subject: Re: web authoring software
Hi Teresa;
You got me curious there. I'm pc based, and there is no shortage of
web editors at all price ranges, but I couldn't think of any for
Mac, unless the Mac version of MS Office also includes FrontPage. So
I did a google search for shareware web sites and was absolutely
stunned at the results- out of some 200+ titles I skimmed, I came up
with only 3 that might help, and only one is specifically for Mac.
One is cross-platform browser based, and the third is Unix, which
should work? you'll have to ask someone else about that. Anyway,
here they are:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/pagespinner.
html
http://www.brothersoft.com/Web_Author_HTML_Editors_JXHTMLEDIT_18751.h
tml
http://www.brothersoft.com/Web_Author_HTML_Editors_Rich_Editor_20615.
html
Perhaps someone mac-based can offer more suggestions?
Steve Karafyllakis
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tneptune2"
<tneptune2@c...> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend affordable, or free:), web authoring software?
> I need something very easy to use but that looks good. Im using
OSX.
> Thanks so much!
> Teresa N.
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:22:14 -0000
From: "scottburroughs2003" <burroughs23@...>
Subject: 1280 Ink Indicators - Nothing
I have QVM Ink carts in a 1280 under XP, and the ink level indicators
show nothing. I've heard of this problem, and a solution of
downloading new drivers. I tried, it does nothing. Does anyone know
of another possibility?
Many thanks,
Scott
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:39:48 +0100
From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
Subject: Re: Epson install problem after ImagePrint
My thoughts exactly. The cost of IP plus the 2200 goes a long way towards
the the cost of a 4000....
From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:44:59 -0500
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Thanks, Steve, that is indeed a sensible idea. However...in looking at
today's posts on the 4000, I may wait a while for it. Neutral, cold and
warm tones just about cover the waterfront for me, plus the ability for more
toning with the color inks. My prints are seldom over 11 -12" wide, but it
would be nice to have 16" paper for better salon borders. _If_ it will
perform as described, $1,800 sounds like a fair price. Now...if I could
just get my ancient 1270 back in action after whatever ImagePrint did to my
system.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kale [mailto:stevekale@...]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:58 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
Simply suggesting that Ken test with the 2200 rather than hopping in boots
On all up front...
:-)
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:21:30 -0000
From: "B. Alex Pettit Jr." <a_pettit_jr@...>
Subject: Re: NEW Epson 17" printer announced
... handles the 220 ml carts ...
Yes, but an Epson 220ml cart is $120 x 7 carts = a major investment !!
Alex
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom OConnell"
<tomoc@y...> wrote:
> Check it out:
>
> http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/epstpro40.html
>
>
> It used the UTs and handles the 220 ml carts...yipee...I've been
> going through 2200 carts like potatoe chips <g>.
>
> Tom O'Connell
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