Digital BW, The Print

Hi!  I just set up a MIS inkset for a 1280.  I've had great sucess 
with the color set i have used on another 1280, and thought that 
the B&W set would be equally as nice, but so far i am getting 
bronzing in the blacks on Epson premium glossy.  I'll admit, i 
have just started doing the researching to find out how to 
properly set up printing, but the main reason i wanted to set up 
this machine was i thought i could get deep blacks on glossy 
paper like the 1280 color (i have a 2200 for matte stuff already).

I'm sure somewhere in the past there are posts here..i also read 
the info on MIS's website from Paul Roark but they say they are 
for Matte Papers, so i guess i'm asking for any advice or maybe 
just some points in the right direction.

the ink is FSN-HEX-E, which is correct i believe.

any advice is greatly appriciated!!!!

jen

I'm sorry, i meant John Woolf's workflow, not Paul Roark.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"radonprojects" <radonprojects@y...> wrote:
> Hi!  I just set up a MIS inkset for a 1280.  I've had great sucess 
> with the color set i have used on another 1280, and thought 
that 
> the B&W set would be equally as nice, but so far i am getting 
> bronzing in the blacks on Epson premium glossy.  I'll admit, i 
> have just started doing the researching to find out how to 
> properly set up printing, but the main reason i wanted to set up 
> this machine was i thought i could get deep blacks on glossy 
> paper like the 1280 color (i have a 2200 for matte stuff already).
> 
> I'm sure somewhere in the past there are posts here..i also 
read 

> the info on MIS's website from Paul Roark but they say they are 
> for Matte Papers, so i guess i'm asking for any advice or maybe 
> just some points in the right direction.
> 
> the ink is FSN-HEX-E, which is correct i believe.
> 
> any advice is greatly appriciated!!!!
> 
> jen

Hello Jen,

I don't think you will have much success using glossy paper with 
those MIS or any other BW inkset, because the glossy surface seems to 
prevent all the ink from going into the paper itself, leaving some 
imbedded in or on the top glossy surface, and when held so the light 
hits it from a side angle; looks more like a silver print than an 
inkjet print. You can get deep blacks if you set your black point in 
the image to 0 and your white point to about 250 so the specular 
lights will be the brightest points in the image. One of the beauties 
of matte paper is that you can hold it at any angle to the light and 
see all the depths of the image without much regard to the light 
source. Work with your image till it looks just right to you and then 
apply the FSN62 curve George Woolf supplys to the MIS website in the 
workflow page.

Your friend in photography,

Johnny Eades



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "radonprojects" 
<radonprojects@y...> wrote:

> Hi!  I just set up a MIS inkset for a 1280.  I've had great sucess 
> with the color set i have used on another 1280, and thought that 
> the B&W set would be equally as nice, but so far i am getting 
> bronzing in the blacks on Epson premium glossy.  I'll admit, i 
> have just started doing the researching to find out how to 
> properly set up printing, but the main reason i wanted to set up 
> this machine was i thought i could get deep blacks on glossy 
> paper like the 1280 color (i have a 2200 for matte stuff already).
> 
> I'm sure somewhere in the past there are posts here..i also read 
> the info on MIS's website from Paul Roark but they say they are 
> for Matte Papers, so i guess i'm asking for any advice or maybe 
> just some points in the right direction.
> 
> the ink is FSN-HEX-E, which is correct i believe.
> 
> any advice is greatly appriciated!!!!
> 
> jen

Dear Johnny ,

thanks so much for you rreply!  I guess i had just read soo much 
about how you would never get a true B&W print without a 
dedicated set of inks i didn't do the research into what kind of 
papers work.

is this ink more like the ultrachrome stuff in the 2200?

I guess just using Matte seems a bit limited.

Anyway, i will do some more tests with stuff and see what i can 
get.

thanks again!

jen

Jen,

The Ultra Tone B&W inkset is the only "quad"/B&W pigment inkset that is
RC/glossy paper compatible (when "Photo" black is used).  The FS-N is only
for matte paper.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: radonprojects [mailto:radonprojects@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:34 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Bronzing with FSN MIS inks on 1280


Hi!  I just set up a MIS inkset for a 1280.  I've had great sucess
with the color set i have used on another 1280, and thought that
the B&W set would be equally as nice, but so far i am getting
bronzing in the blacks on Epson premium glossy.  I'll admit, i
have just started doing the researching to find out how to
properly set up printing, but the main reason i wanted to set up
this machine was i thought i could get deep blacks on glossy
paper like the 1280 color (i have a 2200 for matte stuff already).

I'm sure somewhere in the past there are posts here..i also read
the info on MIS's website from Paul Roark but they say they are
for Matte Papers, so i guess i'm asking for any advice or maybe
just some points in the right direction.

the ink is FSN-HEX-E, which is correct i believe.

any advice is greatly appriciated!!!!

jen



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