Digital BW, The Print

As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject of 
RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a short 
time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I get a 
printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a fully 
functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  So, I 
was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or otherwise, and 
had any opinion of it?

Mike

Mike,

I have an opinion of it: forget StudioPrint ! 

I tested StudioPrint for a while and wasted tons of ink and papers 
with my new 7600. The "variable1" or "variable2" dot size settings 
seem responsible for a periodical vertical pattern that appears in 
dark areas like skies. The "ultra micro" dot size setting in 
combonation with 1440 dpi simply does not print correctly and shifts 
every new line a bit more. If you print color ramps you will easily 
see that the screening is much worse than with the Epson driver. 

For me the smoothness of tones and the screening of a Rip are of 
utmost importance. In both aspects StudioPrint is worse than the 
Epson driver and much worse than ImagePrint.

My 2 euro cents.
Peter

peter baumbach - fine art photography
http://www.pb-photo.net



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Botelho" 
<mfractl@h...> wrote:
> 
> As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
> printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject of 
> RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a 
short 
> time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I get a 
> printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a fully 
> functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  So, 
I 
> was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or otherwise, 
and 

> had any opinion of it?
> 
> Mike

I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
spectacular. I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
disapointing results. Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
the variable settings are not used for quads. Stochastic screening is
amazing.
I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts with
the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for color.
My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are very
accesable to help with all of this as well.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Baumbach"
<info@p...> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> I have an opinion of it: forget StudioPrint ! 
> 
> I tested StudioPrint for a while and wasted tons of ink and papers 
> with my new 7600. The "variable1" or "variable2" dot size settings 
> seem responsible for a periodical vertical pattern that appears in 
> dark areas like skies. The "ultra micro" dot size setting in 
> combonation with 1440 dpi simply does not print correctly and shifts 
> every new line a bit more. If you print color ramps you will easily 
> see that the screening is much worse than with the Epson driver. 
> 
> For me the smoothness of tones and the screening of a Rip are of 
> utmost importance. In both aspects StudioPrint is worse than the 
> Epson driver and much worse than ImagePrint.
> 
> My 2 euro cents.
> Peter
> 
> peter baumbach - fine art photography
> http://www.pb-photo.net
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Botelho" 
> <mfractl@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
> > printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject of 
> > RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a 
> short 
> > time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I get a 
> > printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a fully 
> > functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  So, 
> I 
> > was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or otherwise, 
> and 
> > had any opinion of it?
> > 
> > Mike

As I've mentioned, I'm deciding on my digital switch-over, and I am 
fairly new to the subject of RIPs, though, as I said, I have a demo 
copy of StudioPrint waiting for when I get my printer.  Sounds like 
it's something I may want to at least try, since trying it out is 
free.  I wasn't really thinking of RIPs as being usable with 3rd 
party inks, but, as yet, I'm not very familiar with the Cone inks and 
everything that accompany them.  I assume that they can be used with 
StudioPrint due to the profiles you mentioned, correct?  Having just 
gotten a handle on calibration and profiling in regard to color 
management, I'm totally ignorant on how this relates to B&W.  I 
wasn't aware that profiles could be done for B&W printing, but, like 
I said, this is unknown territory for me.  I suppose I should spend 
some time and look into the Cone system also.

Well, it's definitely seeming that B&W digital is very much like B&W 
from the (wet) darkroom in the sense that it may look like a simple 
process on the surface yet is a complex task to accomplish with 
finesse.

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
> spectacular. I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
> settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
> disapointing results. Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
> the variable settings are not used for quads. Stochastic screening 
is
> amazing.
> I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts 
with
> the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
> Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for 
color.
> My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
> software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are 
very
> accesable to help with all of this as well.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter 
Baumbach"
> <info@p...> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I have an opinion of it: forget StudioPrint ! 
> > 
> > I tested StudioPrint for a while and wasted tons of ink and 
papers 
> > with my new 7600. The "variable1" or "variable2" dot size 
settings 
> > seem responsible for a periodical vertical pattern that appears 
in 
> > dark areas like skies. The "ultra micro" dot size setting in 
> > combonation with 1440 dpi simply does not print correctly and 
shifts 
> > every new line a bit more. If you print color ramps you will 
easily 
> > see that the screening is much worse than with the Epson driver. 
> > 
> > For me the smoothness of tones and the screening of a Rip are of 
> > utmost importance. In both aspects StudioPrint is worse than the 
> > Epson driver and much worse than ImagePrint.
> > 
> > My 2 euro cents.
> > Peter
> > 
> > peter baumbach - fine art photography
> > http://www.pb-photo.net
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike 
Botelho" 
> > <mfractl@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
> > > printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject 
of 
> > > RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a 
> > short 
> > > time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I 
get a 
> > > printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a 
fully 
> > > functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  
So, 
> > I 
> > > was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or 
otherwise, 

> > and 
> > > had any opinion of it?
> > > 
> > > Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Botelho"
<mfractl@h...> wrote:
> 
> As I've mentioned, I'm deciding on my digital switch-over, and I am 
> fairly new to the subject of RIPs, though, as I said, I have a demo 
> copy of StudioPrint waiting for when I get my printer.  Sounds like 
> it's something I may want to at least try, since trying it out is 
> free.  I wasn't really thinking of RIPs as being usable with 3rd 
> party inks,

using 3rd party inks is one of the main reasons might chose to use a
RIP, since linearization and profiling is so controlable. These
abilities "may" be less necessary with the Epson ink and driver the
printer was designed for.

...one but, as yet, I'm not very familiar with the Cone inks and 
> everything that accompany them.  I assume that they can be used with 
> StudioPrint due to the profiles you mentioned, correct?

No, linearization for quad printing in StudioPrint or other
RIPs/drivers designed to optimize quad printing is different than icc
profiling. Though IJM is aparently coming out with a stripped down
version of StudioPrint with supplied environments (linearizations).
The profiles I mentioned were for color, and access the Epson
screening. There is no way it can be less inferior to the Epson driver
in this sense, since it IS the Epson screening. However, this is only
for color, individual ink control necessary for critical quad work is
not possible using Epson's proprietory screening (at least for 3rd
parties) so other impressive screenings are available in the RIP when
in Quad made.

>  Having just 
> gotten a handle on calibration and profiling in regard to color 
> management, I'm totally ignorant on how this relates to B&W.  I 
> wasn't aware that profiles could be done for B&W printing, but, like 
> I said, this is unknown territory for me.

They are not the same. Color icc profiling is 3 dimensional in a
sense, quad linearization is 2 dimensional, density adjustments only.
It is not a color management workflow.

>  I suppose I should spend 
> some time and look into the Cone system also.

StudioPrint IS the current recommended Cone system. If you go to IJM's
site, you'll even see a step by step guide to how linearization is
done in StudioPrint.
 
> Well, it's definitely seeming that B&W digital is very much like B&W 
> from the (wet) darkroom in the sense that it may look like a simple 
> process on the surface yet is a complex task to accomplish with 
> finesse.

I don't think it's even simple on the surface, don't trust anyone
telling you anything about it is simple, or economical. Be ready for a
big commitment and many decisions to make.
Tyler

Thank you Tyler, that was very helpful.  Being new to digital, just 
having aquired a grasp of color management, I suddenly found myself 
in a new area where my knowledge was close to zero, and I obviously 
interpreted some of your comments incorrectly.  Thanks for clearing 
things up.

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Botelho"
> <mfractl@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > As I've mentioned, I'm deciding on my digital switch-over, and I 
am 
> > fairly new to the subject of RIPs, though, as I said, I have a 
demo 
> > copy of StudioPrint waiting for when I get my printer.  Sounds 
like 
> > it's something I may want to at least try, since trying it out is 
> > free.  I wasn't really thinking of RIPs as being usable with 3rd 
> > party inks,
> 
> using 3rd party inks is one of the main reasons might chose to use a
> RIP, since linearization and profiling is so controlable. These
> abilities "may" be less necessary with the Epson ink and driver the
> printer was designed for.
> 
> ...one but, as yet, I'm not very familiar with the Cone inks and 
> > everything that accompany them.  I assume that they can be used 
with 
> > StudioPrint due to the profiles you mentioned, correct?
> 
> No, linearization for quad printing in StudioPrint or other
> RIPs/drivers designed to optimize quad printing is different than 
icc
> profiling. Though IJM is aparently coming out with a stripped down
> version of StudioPrint with supplied environments (linearizations).
> The profiles I mentioned were for color, and access the Epson
> screening. There is no way it can be less inferior to the Epson 
driver
> in this sense, since it IS the Epson screening. However, this is 
only
> for color, individual ink control necessary for critical quad work 
is
> not possible using Epson's proprietory screening (at least for 3rd
> parties) so other impressive screenings are available in the RIP 
when
> in Quad made.
> 
> >  Having just 
> > gotten a handle on calibration and profiling in regard to color 
> > management, I'm totally ignorant on how this relates to B&W.  I 
> > wasn't aware that profiles could be done for B&W printing, but, 
like 
> > I said, this is unknown territory for me.
> 
> They are not the same. Color icc profiling is 3 dimensional in a
> sense, quad linearization is 2 dimensional, density adjustments 
only.
> It is not a color management workflow.
> 
> >  I suppose I should spend 
> > some time and look into the Cone system also.
> 
> StudioPrint IS the current recommended Cone system. If you go to 
IJM's
> site, you'll even see a step by step guide to how linearization is
> done in StudioPrint.
>  
> > Well, it's definitely seeming that B&W digital is very much like 
B&W 
> > from the (wet) darkroom in the sense that it may look like a 
simple 
> > process on the surface yet is a complex task to accomplish with 
> > finesse.
> 
> I don't think it's even simple on the surface, don't trust anyone
> telling you anything about it is simple, or economical. Be ready 
for a
> big commitment and many decisions to make.
> Tyler

There are profiles for inks besides Epson on the Colorbyte site.  There are various ink/paper combinations out there, and they'll make profiles, I believe, whatever ink/paper combination you present to them.
 
Tom Baker


Mike Botelho <mfractl@...> wrote:

As I've mentioned, I'm deciding on my digital switch-over, and I am 
fairly new to the subject of RIPs, though, as I said, I have a demo 
copy of StudioPrint waiting for when I get my printer.  Sounds like 
it's something I may want to at least try, since trying it out is 
free.  I wasn't really thinking of RIPs as being usable with 3rd 
party inks, but, as yet, I'm not very familiar with the Cone inks and 
everything that accompany them.  I assume that they can be used with 
StudioPrint due to the profiles you mentioned, correct?  Having just 
gotten a handle on calibration and profiling in regard to color 
management, I'm totally ignorant on how this relates to B&W.  I 
wasn't aware that profiles could be done for B&W printing, but, like 
I said, this is unknown territory for me.  I suppose I should spend 
some time and look into the Cone system also.

Well, it's definitely seeming that B&W digital is very much like B&W 
from the (wet) darkroom in the sense that it may look like a simple 
process on the surface yet is a complex task to accomplish with 
finesse.

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
> spectacular. I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
> settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
> disapointing results. Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
> the variable settings are not used for quads. Stochastic screening 
is
> amazing.
> I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts 
with
> the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
> Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for 
color.
> My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
> software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are 
very
> accesable to help with all of this as well.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter 
Baumbach"
> <info@p...> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I have an opinion of it: forget StudioPrint ! 
> > 
> > I tested StudioPrint for a while and wasted tons of ink and 
papers 
> > with my new 7600. The "variable1" or "variable2" dot size 
settings 
> > seem responsible for a periodical vertical pattern that appears 
in 
> > dark areas like skies. The "ultra micro" dot size setting in 
> > combonation with 1440 dpi simply does not print correctly and 
shifts 
> > every new line a bit more. If you print color ramps you will 
easily 
> > see that the screening is much worse than with the Epson driver. 
> > 
> > For me the smoothness of tones and the screening of a Rip are of 
> > utmost importance. In both aspects StudioPrint is worse than the 
> > Epson driver and much worse than ImagePrint.
> > 
> > My 2 euro cents.
> > Peter
> > 
> > peter baumbach - fine art photography
> > http://www.pb-photo.net
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike 
Botelho" 
> > <mfractl@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
> > > printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject 
of 
> > > RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a 
> > short 
> > > time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I 
get a 
> > > printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a 
fully 
> > > functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  
So, 
> > I 
> > > was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or 
otherwise, 
> > and 
> > > had any opinion of it?
> > > 
> > > Mike


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Mike,
 I have had great results from StudioPrint/PosterPrint using my 7600 and
7500 machines. I do the color work on the 7600 and use Cone Piezotones(Warm
Neutral and Selenium) on the 7500. It takes some time to get it all right
but instructions are easily followed and linearizations have really opened
up shadow detail not seen by me before using Piezo on a 1280.I print for
myself as well as for other photographers and they have been quite impressed
with the B & W on matt production on large format paper.
Support has been excellent! I've been with the software since v. 9.0.2 thru
10.04 and have had no problems with the program.

Thanks 
Frank 
FRANCIS JAMES MARES PHOTOGRAPHY
EMAIL:FJMARES@...
WWW.FJMARESPHOTO.COM

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Boley [mailto:tyler@...] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:28 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: ErgoSoft StudioPrint RIP

I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
spectacular. I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
disapointing results. Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
the variable settings are not used for quads. Stochastic screening is
amazing.
I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts with
the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for color.
My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are very
accesable to help with all of this as well.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Baumbach"
<info@p...> wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> I have an opinion of it: forget StudioPrint ! 
> 
> I tested StudioPrint for a while and wasted tons of ink and papers 
> with my new 7600. The "variable1" or "variable2" dot size settings 
> seem responsible for a periodical vertical pattern that appears in 
> dark areas like skies. The "ultra micro" dot size setting in 
> combonation with 1440 dpi simply does not print correctly and shifts 
> every new line a bit more. If you print color ramps you will easily 
> see that the screening is much worse than with the Epson driver. 
> 
> For me the smoothness of tones and the screening of a Rip are of 
> utmost importance. In both aspects StudioPrint is worse than the 
> Epson driver and much worse than ImagePrint.
> 
> My 2 euro cents.
> Peter
> 
> peter baumbach - fine art photography
> http://www.pb-photo.net
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Botelho" 
> <mfractl@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > As most of you are probably aware of by now, I'm deciding on my 
> > printer/ink choices for my switch to digital.  On the subject of 
> > RIPs, someone offered me a demo of ErgoSoft's StudioPrint RIP a 
> short 
> > time ago, so I have a copy of that sitting around for when I get a 
> > printer, if it's compatible with my choices.  It's actually a fully 
> > functional demo for 30 days, so I thought it'd be nice to try.  So, 
> I 
> > was wondering if anyone had tried StudioPrint, demo or otherwise, 
> and 
> > had any opinion of it?
> > 
> > Mike



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> There are profiles for inks besides Epson on the Colorbyte 
> site.  There are various ink/paper combinations out there, 
> and they'll make profiles, I believe, whatever ink/paper 
> combination you present to them.

I asked Colorbyte if they would profile the MIS 7600 Archival inks that
I'm using in my 2100 if I bought a license, but they replied that they
would only support standard Epson inks.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

I just went out and looked at their site again.  The MIS and piez ink profiles are for printers other than the x600 series.  There are profiles for the 2200 and Lyson inks.  I guess it's their call.
 
Tom Baker

Daniel Staver <daniel@...> wrote:
> There are profiles for inks besides Epson on the Colorbyte 
> site.  There are various ink/paper combinations out there, 
> and they'll make profiles, I believe, whatever ink/paper 
> combination you present to them.

I asked Colorbyte if they would profile the MIS 7600 Archival inks that
I'm using in my 2100 if I bought a license, but they replied that they
would only support standard Epson inks.

--
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http://daniel.staver.no 



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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
> spectacular. 

Be it, I tested SP with the Ultrachromes inks.

> I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
> settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
> disapointing results. 

The variable dot settings are the settings that came with the canned 
print environments. So I thought they should work at least...Nobody 
told me that these settings were "not correct", even the tech support 
did not mention it after several phone calls where we discussed the 
problems extensively.

> Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
> the variable settings are not used for quads. 

You CAN select Ultra Micro AND 1440 dpi ! If the 
recommended "variable" dot size is not working so what would you 
select next, if micro dot size shows dots in the highlights ? A 
complex piece of software that does not help the user to avoid 
disastrous settings is less than standard.

> Stochastic screening is amazing.

May be, but again there are many other screening settings that simply 
do not produce a smooth tone. Are these settings for poster printing ?

> I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts 
with
> the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
> Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for 
color.

The "special Epson screening" is the old HTM driver, I guess ? 

> My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
> software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are 
very
> accesable to help with all of this as well.

"I have to counter this in every way". I really gave SP a chance 
because I wanted this quad black ink thing but neither the people 
from Ergosoft could help me solving the obvious problems nor they had 
a 7600 printer to test !! After a while Ergosoft Switzerland 
concluded that they indeed might have a problem with some settings 
and they will fix it and keep me posted. I have never heard a word 
again since then. Now it is 6 weeks later. 


Peter

Sorry about your experiences, sounds frustrating. Just wanted to
relate mine as well.
Hope it all gets sorted out.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Baumbach"
<info@p...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
> <tyler@t...> wrote:
> > I have to counter this in every way, for quads StudioPrint is
> > spectacular. 
> 
> Be it, I tested SP with the Ultrachromes inks.
> 
> > I'm using it with a 9600 and Cone inks. None of the
> > settings you mention below are correct, so it's no wonder you had
> > disapointing results. 
> 
> The variable dot settings are the settings that came with the canned 
> print environments. So I thought they should work at least...Nobody 
> told me that these settings were "not correct", even the tech support 
> did not mention it after several phone calls where we discussed the 
> problems extensively.
> 
> > Ultra Micro is only relevent to 2880 printing,
> > the variable settings are not used for quads. 
> 
> You CAN select Ultra Micro AND 1440 dpi ! If the 
> recommended "variable" dot size is not working so what would you 
> select next, if micro dot size shows dots in the highlights ? A 
> complex piece of software that does not help the user to avoid 
> disastrous settings is less than standard.
> 
> > Stochastic screening is amazing.
> 
> May be, but again there are many other screening settings that simply 
> do not produce a smooth tone. Are these settings for poster printing ?
> 
> > I briefly printed some color things while waiting for quad carts 
> with
> > the supplied environments and profiles, also excellent, with special
> > Epson screening available for the special 7600 and 9600 drivers for 
> color.
> 
> The "special Epson screening" is the old HTM driver, I guess ? 
> 
> > My results are very different from yours, it's a complex piece of
> > software and settings need to be nailed down. Ergosoft people are 
> very
> > accesable to help with all of this as well.
> 
> "I have to counter this in every way". I really gave SP a chance 
> because I wanted this quad black ink thing but neither the people 
> from Ergosoft could help me solving the obvious problems nor they had 
> a 7600 printer to test !! After a while Ergosoft Switzerland 
> concluded that they indeed might have a problem with some settings 
> and they will fix it and keep me posted. I have never heard a word 
> again since then. Now it is 6 weeks later. 
> 
> 
> Peter

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> Sorry about your experiences, sounds frustrating. Just wanted to
> relate mine as well.

Thanks, I just wanted to warn Mike beeing too optimistic about this 
software. The SP RIP is not easy to manage and there are alternatives 
as well.

> Hope it all gets sorted out.

Hope so too, I've ordered ImagePrint.

Peter

Hi,

After installing the software and trying to open up the help file I 
got the message "Can not find PpUi.hlp." What has happen with the 
helpfile? Using Pauls MIS UT mixture with StudioPrint is that 
possible or is it only for Cones inks? Any suggestion were to start 
with the UT setup? When trying to print a 21 step greyscale it only 
prints with the "Black", tried different enviroment settings.

Regards
Soren