Contact Print Negatives
2003-11-06 by Joe Thibodeau
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2003-11-06 by Joe Thibodeau
To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some time searching through the archive but did not find an answer. Joe
2003-11-06 by Kees Brandenburg
Joe, There are two good products for this purpose: 1. Pictorico OHP inkjet transparancies <http://www.pictorico.com> 2. Agfa CopyJet (sheet) or SelectJet (roll) <http://graphics.agfa.com/product/CatProd_DisplayPublic.html?id=8318> Pictorico is the standard. Agfa is the only inkjet transparancy that resembles it (and is a lot cheaper - allthough prices went up recently). See dan burkholders site and book for instructions. http://www.danburkholder.com Use QuadTone Rip (if you are on a Mac with os x or linux) to make you're own separations. The point where next (grey) ink comes in is different between paper (reflective light) and transparancies (transmissive light). Kees Brandenburg --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Thibodeau" <jetcode@a...> wrote:
> > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some time > searching through the archive but did not find an answer. > > Joe
2003-11-06 by David R. Spielman
Joe, You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High-Gloss White Film. Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material. If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only solution. Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film is UV opaque! Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi. I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital negatives used to print on silver/gelatin print material. In Out 0% 10% 5% 11.9% 10% 13.9% 20% 17.6% 30% 21.9% 40% 26.5% 50% 31.5% 60% 36.8% 70% 43.0% 80% 52.0% 90% 70.0% 95% 87.0% 100% 100% Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material. Setup: photo black ink, Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image, printer source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before using. Works great! Best Regards, David R. Spielman
From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives
To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print
negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can
someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if
this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some time
searching through the archive but did not find an answer.
Joe
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-11-06 by Joe Thibodeau
Hi David, Thanks for the information. Very helpful if I decide to go back into the darkroom ... I triedentering the curve using curves and the entry field gets rounded off to integers so I'm not sure how to enter a fractional value. Joe --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > Joe, > > You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High-Gloss White > Film. > Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material. > If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only solution. > Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film is UV opaque! > Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi. > > I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital negatives > used to print on silver/gelatin print material. > > In Out > 0% 10% > 5% 11.9% > 10% 13.9% > 20% 17.6% > 30% 21.9% > 40% 26.5% > 50% 31.5% > 60% 36.8% > 70% 43.0% > 80% 52.0% > 90% 70.0% > 95% 87.0% > 100% 100% > > Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material. > Setup: photo black ink, > Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image, printer > source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before using. > > Works great! > > Best Regards, > > David R. Spielman > > > > > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives > > > > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some time > searching through the archive but did not find an answer. > > Joe > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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2003-11-07 by David R. Spielman
Joe, Do the following: 1) With an image loaded, invoke the print with preview function (File>Print with Preview ) and then, 2) Select the Output function from the Color Management/Output drop-down list box. 3) Click on the Transfer Function button and enter the curve values 4) Save the transfer function as an *.ATF file with an appropriate name. The contrast adjustment curve is now ready to be used. To apply the contrast adjustment curve involves the curves function in Photoshop (Image>Adjustments>Curves). Click on the Load button, and select the *.ATF file type. Select the file name of the desired curve and its graph will be displayed Dont be concerned if the resulting image looks very strange onscreen. It is important that no further adjustments (tone, contrast, brightness, etc.) be made in Photoshop after this contrast adjustment curve has been applied. Best Regards, David R. Spielman
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:29 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Contact Print Negatives
Hi David,
Thanks for the information. Very helpful if I decide to go back into
the darkroom ... I triedentering the curve using curves and the
entry field gets rounded off to integers so I'm not sure how to
enter a fractional value.
Joe
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R.
Spielman" <david@s...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High-Gloss
White
> Film.
> Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material.
> If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only solution.
> Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film is
UV opaque!
> Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi.
>
> I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital
negatives
> used to print on silver/gelatin print material.
>
> In Out
> 0% 10%
> 5% 11.9%
> 10% 13.9%
> 20% 17.6%
> 30% 21.9%
> 40% 26.5%
> 50% 31.5%
> 60% 36.8%
> 70% 43.0%
> 80% 52.0%
> 90% 70.0%
> 95% 87.0%
> 100% 100%
>
> Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material.
> Setup: photo black ink,
> Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image,
printer
> source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before
using.
>
> Works great!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> David R. Spielman
>
>
>
>
> From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives
>
>
>
> To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print
> negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can
> someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if
> this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some
time
> searching through the archive but did not find an answer.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-11-07 by Joe Thibodeau
Hi David, Thanks again for the lesson in applying curves and offering the mapping to Silver Gelatin. It is interesting to me to examine at the strange appearance ... this is the kind of negative that Silver demands ... I don't have any negatives that look like this! Joe --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > Joe, > > Do the following: > > > 1) With an image loaded, invoke the print with preview function (File>Print > with Preview ) and then, > 2) Select the Output function from the Color Management/Output drop-down > list box. > 3) Click on the Transfer Function button and enter the curve values > 4) Save the transfer function as an *.ATF file with an appropriate name. The > contrast adjustment curve is now ready to be used. > > To apply the contrast adjustment curve involves the curves function in > Photoshop (Image>Adjustments>Curves). > Click on the Load button, and select the *.ATF file type. > Select the file name of the desired curve and its graph will be displayed > Don't be concerned if the resulting image looks very strange onscreen. > It is important that no further adjustments (tone, contrast, brightness, > etc.) be > made in Photoshop after this contrast adjustment curve has been applied. > > > Best Regards, > > David R. Spielman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:29 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Contact Print Negatives > > > > Hi David, > > Thanks for the information. Very helpful if I decide to go back into > the darkroom ... I triedentering the curve using curves and the > entry field gets rounded off to integers so I'm not sure how to > enter a fractional value. > > Joe > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. > Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > > Joe, > > > > You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High- Gloss > White > > Film. > > Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material. > > If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only solution. > > Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film is > UV opaque! > > Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi. > > > > I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital > negatives > > used to print on silver/gelatin print material. > > > > In Out > > 0% 10% > > 5% 11.9% > > 10% 13.9% > > 20% 17.6% > > 30% 21.9% > > 40% 26.5% > > 50% 31.5% > > 60% 36.8% > > 70% 43.0% > > 80% 52.0% > > 90% 70.0% > > 95% 87.0% > > 100% 100% > > > > Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material. > > Setup: photo black ink, > > Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image, > printer > > source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before > using. > > > > Works great! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > David R. Spielman > > > > > > > > > > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...] > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives > > > > > > > > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print > > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can > > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if > > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some > time > > searching through the archive but did not find an answer. > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, > Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. 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2003-11-07 by Joe Thibodeau
Hi David, Thanks again for the lesson in applying curves and offering the mapping to Silver Gelatin. It is interesting to me to examine at the strange appearance ... this is the kind of negative that Silver demands ... I don't have any negatives that look like this! Joe --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > Joe, > > Do the following: > > > 1) With an image loaded, invoke the print with preview function (File>Print > with Preview ) and then, > 2) Select the Output function from the Color Management/Output drop-down > list box. > 3) Click on the Transfer Function button and enter the curve values > 4) Save the transfer function as an *.ATF file with an appropriate name. The > contrast adjustment curve is now ready to be used. > > To apply the contrast adjustment curve involves the curves function in > Photoshop (Image>Adjustments>Curves). > Click on the Load button, and select the *.ATF file type. > Select the file name of the desired curve and its graph will be displayed > Don't be concerned if the resulting image looks very strange onscreen. > It is important that no further adjustments (tone, contrast, brightness, > etc.) be > made in Photoshop after this contrast adjustment curve has been applied. > > > Best Regards, > > David R. Spielman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:29 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Contact Print Negatives > > > > Hi David, > > Thanks for the information. Very helpful if I decide to go back into > the darkroom ... I triedentering the curve using curves and the > entry field gets rounded off to integers so I'm not sure how to > enter a fractional value. > > Joe > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. > Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > > Joe, > > > > You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High- Gloss > White > > Film. > > Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material. > > If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only solution. > > Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film is > UV opaque! > > Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi. > > > > I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital > negatives > > used to print on silver/gelatin print material. > > > > In Out > > 0% 10% > > 5% 11.9% > > 10% 13.9% > > 20% 17.6% > > 30% 21.9% > > 40% 26.5% > > 50% 31.5% > > 60% 36.8% > > 70% 43.0% > > 80% 52.0% > > 90% 70.0% > > 95% 87.0% > > 100% 100% > > > > Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material. > > Setup: photo black ink, > > Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image, > printer > > source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before > using. > > > > Works great! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > David R. Spielman > > > > > > > > > > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...] > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives > > > > > > > > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print > > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can > > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if > > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some > time > > searching through the archive but did not find an answer. > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, > Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep > > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the > subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various > > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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2003-11-07 by Joe Thibodeau
Thanks Kees ... Joe --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Kees Brandenburg" <ctb@z...> wrote: > > Joe, > There are two good products for this purpose: > > 1. Pictorico OHP inkjet transparancies <http://www.pictorico.com> > 2. Agfa CopyJet (sheet) or SelectJet (roll) > <http://graphics.agfa.com/product/CatProd_DisplayPublic.html? id=8318> > > Pictorico is the standard. Agfa is the only inkjet transparancy that > resembles it (and is a lot cheaper - allthough prices went up recently). > > See dan burkholders site and book for instructions. > http://www.danburkholder.com > > Use QuadTone Rip (if you are on a Mac with os x or linux) to make > you're own separations. The point where next (grey) ink comes in is > different between paper (reflective light) and transparancies > (transmissive light). > > > > Kees Brandenburg > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Thibodeau" > <jetcode@a...> wrote: > > > > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to print > > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement. Can > > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose? Sorry if > > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend some time
> > searching through the archive but did not find an answer. > > > > Joe
2003-11-07 by David R. Spielman
Joe, The tone/density relationship of the OHP material is very non-linear. That's why your image looks so strange after applying the curve. By the way, don't forget to invert the image after applying the curve. This transforms the image from a positive into a negative. Best Regards, David R. Spielman
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@allvantage.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:12 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Contact Print Negatives
Hi David,
Thanks again for the lesson in applying curves and offering the
mapping to Silver Gelatin. It is interesting to me to examine at the
strange appearance ... this is the kind of negative that Silver
demands ... I don't have any negatives that look like this!
Joe
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R.
Spielman" <david@s...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Do the following:
>
>
> 1) With an image loaded, invoke the print with preview function
(File>Print
> with Preview
) and then,
> 2) Select the Output function from the Color Management/Output
drop-down
> list box.
> 3) Click on the Transfer Function button and enter the curve values
> 4) Save the transfer function as an *.ATF file with an appropriate
name. The
> contrast adjustment curve is now ready to be used.
>
> To apply the contrast adjustment curve involves the curves
function in
> Photoshop (Image>Adjustments>Curves).
> Click on the Load button, and select the *.ATF file type.
> Select the file name of the desired curve and its graph will be
displayed
> Don't be concerned if the resulting image looks very strange
onscreen.
> It is important that no further adjustments (tone, contrast,
brightness,
> etc.) be
> made in Photoshop after this contrast adjustment curve has been
applied.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> David R. Spielman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Contact Print Negatives
>
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for the information. Very helpful if I decide to go back
into
> the darkroom ... I triedentering the curve using curves and the
> entry field gets rounded off to integers so I'm not sure how to
> enter a fractional value.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R.
> Spielman" <david@s...> wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > You can use Pictorico's OHP film or their Photo Gallery High-
Gloss
> White
> > Film.
> > Both can be used to make negatives for silver/gelatin material.
> > If platinum/palladium is your game, the OHP is your only
solution.
> > Turns out that the base material of the High-Gloss White Film
is
> UV opaque!
> > Use the photo black ink on your 2200 and print at 2880 dpi.
> >
> > I've developed the Photoshop adjustment curve below for digital
> negatives
> > used to print on silver/gelatin print material.
> >
> > In Out
> > 0% 10%
> > 5% 11.9%
> > 10% 13.9%
> > 20% 17.6%
> > 30% 21.9%
> > 40% 26.5%
> > 50% 31.5%
> > 60% 36.8%
> > 70% 43.0%
> > 80% 52.0%
> > 90% 70.0%
> > 95% 87.0%
> > 100% 100%
> >
> > Using a Epson 2200, and Pictorico OHP material.
> > Setup: photo black ink,
> > Premium glossy photo paper setting, untagged grayscale image,
> printer
> > source, same as source. Let the negative cure overnight before
> using.
> >
> > Works great!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > David R. Spielman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Joe Thibodeau [mailto:jetcode@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:59 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Contact Print Negatives
> >
> >
> >
> > To extend my art to Silver in the digital domain I want to
print
> > negatives on the 2200 for contact printing or enlargement.
Can
> > someone recommend a film to print on for such a purpose?
Sorry if
> > this topic has been rehashed a million times. I did spend
some
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-11-08 by Doug Nielsen
> Guys, > > Does anyone know if Burkholder's "Inkjet Negative Companion" disk has > settings, etc. for making negs with the Epson1280? > > Thanks, > > AZ Yes, Burkholder's Inkjet Negative Companion does cover the 1280. An interesting change since his earlier writing, he now recommends Pictorico High Gloss White Film for negatives to be used on silver prints. The White film apparently is superior to the OHP material but will not work with platinum prints because it blocks UV light. Doug Nielsen
2003-11-08 by Barry Hobden
It certainly does!
> > Does anyone know if Burkholder's "Inkjet Negative Companion" disk has > settings, etc. for making negs with the Epson1280? > > Thanks, > > AZ >
2003-11-08 by Alan Zinn
At 06:14 PM 11/7/03 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks Kees ... Joe > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Kees >Brandenburg" <ctb@z...> wrote: > > > > Joe, > > There are two good products for this purpose: > > > > 1. Pictorico OHP inkjet transparancies <http://www.pictorico.com> > > 2. Agfa CopyJet (sheet) or SelectJet (roll) > > <http://graphics.agfa.com/product/CatProd_DisplayPublic.html? >id=8318> > > > > Pictorico is the standard. Agfa is the only inkjet transparancy >that > > resembles it (and is a lot cheaper - allthough prices went up >recently). > > > > See dan burkholders site and book for instructions. > > http://www.danburkholder.com > > > > Use QuadTone Rip (if you are on a Mac with os x or linux) to make > > you're own separations. The point where next (grey) ink comes in is > > different between paper (reflective light) and transparancies > > (transmissive light). > > > Guys, Does anyone know if Burkholder's "Inkjet Negative Companion" disk has settings, etc. for making negs with the Epson1280? Thanks, AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. NOW SHIPPING http://www.panoramacamera.us